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The next point is where things get messy: "Settings with magically based TL ratings are effectively alternative histories, where the point of departure is the invention of reliable magic." But many worlds don't do that. Yrth is TL3-4 even though it has had magic from the get go so shouldn't its TL be TL(0+3)? In fact, GURPS Fantasy introduces the concept of Equivalent TL and Andrew Hackard edited that book as well as Basic Set and Infinite Worlds. |
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Then there are indications that Merik may have sabotaged his ship to force his crew to beam down to the planet. It is hard to say how much equipment (if any) they had with them. In fact, the Enterprise never tries to see if there are communicators on the planet which is weird. Of course when it comes to logic TOS often went off the rails. Last edited by maximara; 04-14-2018 at 06:20 AM. |
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04-14-2018, 07:39 AM | #36 |
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No, it does not use magic commonly enough for it to take the place of technology. Most Yrthlings live lives in an unaltered medieval manner. Especially in terms of Starting Wealth and other TL-based characteristics.
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I can see an argument that there is enough magic in Yrth outside Caithness and Al-Haz to make Yrth TL 3+1, especially in areas like farming, navigation, and medicine. However, given how few wizards there are in society, I don't think it is necessary. I think a lot of it depends on the GM's view of Yrth.
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Merit sabotaged his ship?! What are you talking about?
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In what sense? In the sense of "It is actually offering reasonably affordable golem carriages or healing potions to the public at large?" It is not. In the sense that there are no reasons why it wouldn't be? That is false. No methods for producing such things on a large scale have been invented yet. Nor do they have a a public education system capable of teaching everyone who can do magic how to.
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The Enterprise discovered the remains of the SS Beagle which contained personal items indicating they left in a hurry.
Then you have indications that the ship was destroyed near a certain planet (planet four, star system eight nine two) and drifted there over six years. (Star Trek physics is wonky as all get out but go with it) Finally, why would a crew of a survey ship beam her entire crew down given the Prime Directive? These factors point to Merit sabotaging his own ship. I should mention that the statement that Rome had no Sun worshipers is incorrect as it ignores the Sol Invictus cult of the 3rd century. In fact, Christianity used its date as the birthday of Jesus in the 4th century. Quote:
While Magery is only present in 2% of the human population that has no baring on Mysticism (GURPS Banestorm says that Power Investiture is unknown on Yrth but then turns around and says Blessed is known...even it can function as a limited form of Magery per GURPS Fantasy) or Alchemy. Heck even with Magery that uncommon the TL can still take it on the chin per GURPS Fantasy with Agrarian Magic playing the most havoc. Five spells known by one mage can allow a village of 100 people to reach production levels surpassed only by those seen in the Green Revolution of the 1920s-30s (TL6) Of course this is nothing compared to Merlin-1 whose TL should be totally messed up as magery 2 is so common that such mages do assembly line work. (GURPS Technomancer pg 41) Last edited by maximara; 04-15-2018 at 09:11 AM. |
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