10-14-2020, 12:22 PM | #1 |
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Gothenburg, Sweden
|
Fanaticism and Sense of Duty
What would be the difference between Fanaticism (U.S.A) and Sense of Duty (U.S.A.)? What would a character like Captain America in the movie CA: The Winter Soldier have?
No discussion of real-world politics, obviously.
__________________
“When you arise in the morning think of what a privilege it is to be alive, to think, to enjoy, to love ...” Marcus Aurelius |
10-14-2020, 12:28 PM | #2 |
Join Date: Jan 2014
|
Re: Fanaticism and Sense of Duty
As written, SoD (US) would be a sense of duty that applies to every single American. Fanaticism (US) would simply be a very extreme patriot. Individual Americans aren't very important to the Fanatic, but very much so to the Sense of Duty.
|
10-14-2020, 12:46 PM | #3 |
Hero of Democracy
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: far from the ocean
|
Re: Fanaticism and Sense of Duty
reading the advantages, fanaticism is ideological, while sense of duty is personal. The disad Sense of duty specifically mentions you feel that way towards a group of people. Sense of Duty (America) is more properly written Sense of Duty (Americans). Fanaticism mention nations, but also organizations, philosophies, and religions. Fanaticism (America) is for someone who believes in the national organization, government, constitution, ect, is something worth dying for.
__________________
Be helpful, not pedantic Worlds Beyond Earth -- my blog Check out the PbP forum! If you don't see a game you'd like, ask me about making one! |
10-15-2020, 01:32 PM | #4 | |||
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Hmm, looks like Earth, circa CE 2020+
|
Re: Fanaticism and Sense of Duty
I think it's a very good question.
Quote:
SoD has Quote:
- - - - - On the difference between Sense of Duty and Fanaticism, Fanaticism has Quote:
Imagine a PC is in the U.S.A. military in the middle of the jungle under a commander who's gone wacko. There's a group of American "deserters" who left the wacko commander and are on the edge of starving. The SoD PC would want to sneak food to the deserters. The Fanatic PC would be more likely to shoot them.
__________________
GURPS Fantasy Folk: Elves My first GURPS supplement Top 12 Clues You're a Role-Playing Old-Timer My humorous (I hope) article that also promotes SJGames/GURPS Kerry Thornley: Dwarf Planet Eris, Discordianism, and The John F. Kennedy Assassination Without Thornley, there would never have been the Steve Jackson Games edition of Principia Discordia |
|||
10-15-2020, 01:43 PM | #5 | |
Hero of Democracy
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: far from the ocean
|
Re: Fanaticism and Sense of Duty
Quote:
I live in the USA, and not everyone I know personally is an american. Exclusions include foreign students, Immigrants (depending on how you read if they are "american") , Coworkers who live overseas, and gaming acquaintances who live overseas. The national version is still more appropriate in international settings, I agree.
__________________
Be helpful, not pedantic Worlds Beyond Earth -- my blog Check out the PbP forum! If you don't see a game you'd like, ask me about making one! |
|
10-15-2020, 03:32 PM | #6 | |
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Hmm, looks like Earth, circa CE 2020+
|
Re: Fanaticism and Sense of Duty
Quote:
Where I used to live (suburb of Los Angeles), about half the business signs were in a language other than English. And I tutored international English-as-a-second-language students. Now that I live in the middle of nowhere in rural Texas, a "foreigner" is someone from California or New York (OK, I'm exaggerating--a little).
__________________
GURPS Fantasy Folk: Elves My first GURPS supplement Top 12 Clues You're a Role-Playing Old-Timer My humorous (I hope) article that also promotes SJGames/GURPS Kerry Thornley: Dwarf Planet Eris, Discordianism, and The John F. Kennedy Assassination Without Thornley, there would never have been the Steve Jackson Games edition of Principia Discordia |
|
10-15-2020, 04:14 PM | #7 | |
Join Date: Sep 2007
|
Re: Fanaticism and Sense of Duty
Quote:
It's a Sense of Duty -- something the character personally feels, not something you calculated to pretend to for maximum point value for minimum commitment. |
|
10-15-2020, 05:28 PM | #8 |
Join Date: Dec 2007
|
Re: Fanaticism and Sense of Duty
The thing about Fanaticism is that, you have to be unreasonable. For example someone who feels a Sense of Duty toward his nation can still do things like arresting a military officer who was committing war crimes in its service. But a Fanatic patriot? It's "my country right or wrong" and he'll most likely be supporting the war criminal. Or murdering him as part of the cover-up. Which ever best serves the cause.
|
10-16-2020, 01:49 AM | #9 |
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Dreamland
|
Re: Fanaticism and Sense of Duty
He would have Sense of Duty and it would more likely be "All Humans" than just his country. In one movie he's in another country and he does his best to make sure not a single person dies even though he doesn't know them and they definitely aren't americans.
|
10-16-2020, 04:14 AM | #10 |
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Gothenburg, Sweden
|
Re: Fanaticism and Sense of Duty
What about someone who says "my country, right or wrong..."
Sense of Duty or Fanaticism?
__________________
“When you arise in the morning think of what a privilege it is to be alive, to think, to enjoy, to love ...” Marcus Aurelius |
Tags |
disadvantages, fanaticism, sense of duty |
|
|