06-02-2020, 10:59 PM | #31 |
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Re: Picking up a dropped weapon while engaged - when do you stand up?
As an action, while having no Front hexes yourself. If you can manage to stand next to a foe's side offering +4 to be hit for a turn without getting knocked down, yes.
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06-02-2020, 11:08 PM | #32 | |
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Re: Picking up a dropped weapon while engaged - when do you stand up?
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06-02-2020, 11:43 PM | #33 |
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06-03-2020, 01:28 AM | #34 | |
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You never get to use a weapon on the same turn you take READY WEAPON either. Any turn that starts with a weapon ready must be preceded by at least one turn that was spent on getting it ready. And that's also what I believe Axyl was agreeing with.
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06-03-2020, 12:43 PM | #35 | |
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I think a literal reading of RAW is that you can therefore scoop a weapon while moving full MA (-3 or with a 3/DX roll), or could be combined with other actions including Dodge or just about anything else, as it seems to be a thing that can be done during movement using MA or a roll, that doesn't say it prevents you from doing anything else that turn. Now, I might agree with you that it should say that a figure that does this doesn't get to do another action, but it looks to me that the rules don't say that. |
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06-03-2020, 09:15 PM | #36 | |
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For example, I used to argue that the rules strongly imply thrown weapon get a facing bonus. Everything in the rules imply this. But it just does not make sense. I think it was you that made that point to me. :-) |
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06-04-2020, 10:45 AM | #37 | |
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06-04-2020, 10:24 PM | #38 | |
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But this is not a hill to die on. Either action is consumed or action is available for any use without the weapon. It would be nice for an official ruling. If non-scooped-weapon action is allow then you would see these potential actions: - move up to half MA (including the 3 MA or DX roll) and attack with a weapon in the other hand - move up to half MA (etc) and dodge - move up to 2 hexes (use DX roll to scoop) and in addition to scooping you ready a new weapon or load a crossbow or switch weapons. - move 1 hex (use DX roll to scoop) and cast a spell or disbelieve - move 1 hex (use DX roll to scoop) and fire a sling (has to be a one handed weapon since the other was scooping) - move up to half MA and enter HTH from a rear hex I got to say I like the idea of someone scooping up a dagger and jumping into HTH. Hero stuff. Still does not make sense why drawing the dagger from his belt would take a turn longer. Of course you would not get to have use of the dagger in that first attack that comes with HTH engaging but still pretty cool. As well as the attack: snatch up a weapon and shield slam someone in the same turn (for this example, the already readied weapon being your shield). I don't like the idea of casting, disbelieving and sling attack. Seems to frenetic. And having an action in the middle of a dodge makes that the ideal time to get shot, so dodging does not sound valid to me either. And I don't like the other readying action being done at the same time, seems too many hands need to be involved. So the net for me is still to saw the action was consumed when scooping. |
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06-05-2020, 10:27 AM | #40 |
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