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Re: Ghosts and Mind Copies - The Identity Question
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"That's the same axe he owned?" "Oh, yes. Two new heads and five new shafts, but it's still the same axe."
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12-16-2009, 01:05 AM | #122 | |
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12-16-2009, 01:25 AM | #123 | |
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The former is similar to my examples with an OS on a RAID and the shrine that is repeatedly rebuilt anew. The latter is probably more similar to a virus infecting a program in such an obvious way that it won't pass the signature check (i.e. can no longer be considered the same program it was before the infection). |
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12-16-2009, 01:41 AM | #124 | |
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More examples: Moscow was burned to the ground completely when the Mongols successfully attacked it, and all its old inhabitants either died or were killed; yet it is still Moscow. Mississippi consists of different waters now than a year before, yet is Mississippi. Microsoft.com has probably migrated between a larger number of servers than we will ever work on, yet it is microsoft.com, and so on. And Koran, be it on paper or on an iPod, is still Koran, and is not to be touched with unwashed hands (even when it is merely displayed on an iPod screen). |
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12-16-2009, 03:24 AM | #125 | |
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12-16-2009, 03:30 AM | #126 | |
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I'm interpreting what he is saying to mean that he endures as long as enough of his body endures to produce a substantially similar consciousness (this is determined some way detailed elsewhere) and as long as his substantially similar consciousness continues moment to moment despite the replacement of his body with something else that can support the process of conscious thought. |
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12-16-2009, 04:34 AM | #127 | |
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The shrine is still Ise Jingu from one reconstruction to the next in the way the town Christmas parade is the same event from one year to the next. It may not be the original Ise Jingu depending on the intentions of the people who commissioned the original building. Each rebuilt physical object is an instance of a structure suitable to serve as an iteration of the Ise Jingu traditional activity. Whether it is the same shrine depends on if "shrine" is defined as a place or a building or the contents or a religious authority's proclamation. Last edited by jeff_wilson; 12-16-2009 at 08:29 AM. |
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12-16-2009, 04:52 AM | #128 | |
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12-16-2009, 05:04 AM | #129 | |
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12-16-2009, 07:37 AM | #130 |
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