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Old 12-10-2011, 12:49 AM   #21
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Indeed, but I myself am not blessed with Rapier Wit. Were it otherwise I would not go on at such length.

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Old 12-10-2011, 01:05 AM   #22
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Thy wit is a pole, not a rapier. Too long and without a sharp point.
We cannot all follow your admirable example.

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Old 12-10-2011, 01:06 AM   #23
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To really shock a person requires you to know which buttons to push.
There is nothing you can tell just by looking that would get my goat.
That's really why it's cinematic. Because it can be used against strangers.
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Old 12-10-2011, 01:08 AM   #24
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Thy wit is a pole, not a rapier. Too long and without a sharp point.
That's why the ladies love my "wit".
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Old 12-10-2011, 01:57 AM   #25
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I like Rapier Wit but yeah in a serious game I think it probably is a bit too much for the cost.
Compare to Kiai, which require TBAM
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Old 12-10-2011, 01:59 AM   #26
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That's why the ladies love my "wit".
In Elizabethan times, wit indeed had the double meaning you infer here.
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Old 12-10-2011, 06:23 AM   #27
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Personally I've always considered Rapier Wit a very cinematic Advantage.

I mean, if you're using it against a mook, then maybe you could get to use-as-written (but, y u not shoot mook???), but against a serious character?

Maybe you could make somebody really angry, but if it's game effect, that's more like, "Affliction (causes Disadvantage: Berserk; limitations: sound-based, must share language)" or something. If it's something like mind-games that grind away at the opponent's confidence, than that's full-blown Fast-Talk with relevant modifiers for what's going on in the combat (you Feint successfully etc)--and it takes Fast-Talk amounts of time, ie, not a free action.

Or maybe you could have the training to have two fights at once--swords and debating--and your objective is to split the opponent's attention so they get distracted and present an opening.

I guess the thing is, I'm trying to imagine like two boxers in a punch-up, and I cannot imagine anything one boxer could just say that would be so shocking or clever that the other boxer would be mentally stunned. Not just professionals, but even two high-school boxers or something.
"What's My Name", Muhammad Ali to Ernie Terrel.
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Old 12-10-2011, 07:09 AM   #28
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"What's My Name", Muhammad Ali to Ernie Terrel.
It was Ali. Maybe he just forgot and needed a hint.
(I know that all his famous quotes were rehearsed and written by his coach.)
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Old 12-10-2011, 07:19 AM   #29
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It was Ali. Maybe he just forgot and needed a hint.
(I know that all his famous quotes were rehearsed and written by his coach.)
State your source(s) for this statement as I've never heard it said in any of the documentation or film about Ali.
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Old 12-10-2011, 03:16 PM   #30
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State your source(s) for this statement as I've never heard it said in any of the documentation or film about Ali.
Weird, I thought it was common knowledge. Maybe I got trolled in the past.
If I didn't suck so bad at research, I might be able to find where I read that.
As it is, I guess I'll have to admit almost certain mistake.
Oops. Glad I'm not getting graded on my posts.
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