How much damage does a shotgun do?

[Brevitt]

We played last night and a new player took shotgun skill.
My first question is how do you determine how many of the shots hit?
how many of the nine seperaste projectiles hit the intended target and what damage do they do. Is it 1d+1 for each mini projectile or is that total dmg? I can't seem to read it right.

For example
Player 1 fires at bad guy from 20 yrds firing 2 of the 3 possible shots allowed his skill is 13 and for arguments sake he rolls ten whats the damage?
Thanks in advance

[The Benj]

Yes, each pellet does damage independantly of the others. You determine how many shots hit with the normal Rapid Fire rules. If you're using a shotgun with pellets, remember that it fires multiple projectiles per shot.
In the example you give, this means that Player 1 is firing (2x9=18) shots, which gives a bonus to hit of +4 (from memory, please excuse if that's not exact), so his Skill of 13 raises to 17. I'm unsure from your wording whether you've already taken out the range penalty or included any applicable bonuses for Aiming.
Assuming you have: rolling 7 is success by 7. With a Recoil of 1, that means 8 shots hit. The target takes 8d+8 (OW!) damage if they have no DR. If they have DR, remember that each of these dice has to penetrate separately.

[Brevitt]

Thanks Benj that has clarified it for me.

[The Benj]

You're welcome. It is a little confusing, but I got familiar with it very fast because one of the PCs in the campaign I'm running has an ice shard Innate Attack (it's a gritty supers game) that's like a shotgun blast of crossbow bolts. 3x27 RoF and each is 1d+2 Impaling. Big ouch.

[Kale]

Also, don't forget slugs. 12G gives a single 4d+4 pi++ attack per shell fired. Recoil goes up when firing slugs though; typically 5 to 7 for most shotguns.
Another odd feature is what I like to call 'boomstick' range. At 10% of max range (works out to a few yards for most guns) shot loads (pellets) don't have time to spread out much so they act like a single 'squishy' slug attack. At boomstick range or less, pellet loads deliver 4d+4 (0.25) pi++ (quadruple target's DR, but otherwise treat as a slug). This is handy because if you are using a semi-auto shotgun you can fire three shells per turn. At boomstick range or less you end up doing 4d+4(0.25)pi++ THREE TIMES (if you manage to hit with the slug recoil penalty, which is typically 5 to 7 depending on the shotgun). Even with a pump-action, two 4d+4 pi++ attacks is pretty serious, and at boomstick ranges you have little or no range penalty on your roll.

[Ulzgoroth]

Originally Posted by Kale

Also, don't forget slugs. 12G gives a single 4d+4 pi++ attack per shell fired. Recoil goes up when firing slugs though; typically 5 to 7 for most shotguns.
Another odd feature is what I like to call 'boomstick' range. At 10% of max range (works out to a few yards for most guns) shot loads (pellets) don't have time to spread out much so they act like a single 'squishy' slug attack. At boomstick range or less, pellet loads deliver 4d+4 (0.25) pi++ (quadruple target's DR, but otherwise treat as a slug). This is handy because if you are using a semi-auto shotgun you can fire three shells per turn. At boomstick range or less you end up doing 4d+4(0.25)pi++ THREE TIMES (if you manage to hit with the slug recoil penalty, which is typically 5 to 7 depending on the shotgun). Even with a pump-action, two 4d+4 pi++ attacks is pretty serious, and at boomstick ranges you have little or no range penalty on your roll.

The chances of hitting with 3 slugs/boomstick shots from a semi-auto shotgun in one round is vanishingly small, unless you've got cinematic skill

Two is a possibility, though.

[Ragitsu]

Well, "cinematic" does depend on what you clarify skill number benchmarks as.

[The Benj]

Originally Posted by Kale

Another odd feature is what I like to call 'boomstick' range. At 10% of max range (works out to a few yards for most guns) shot loads (pellets) don't have time to spread out much so they act like a single 'squishy' slug attack. At boomstick range or less, pellet loads deliver 4d+4 (0.25) pi++ (quadruple target's DR, but otherwise treat as a slug). This is handy because if you are using a semi-auto shotgun you can fire three shells per turn. At boomstick range or less you end up doing 4d+4(0.25)pi++ THREE TIMES (if you manage to hit with the slug recoil penalty, which is typically 5 to 7 depending on the shotgun). Even with a pump-action, two 4d+4 pi++ attacks is pretty serious, and at boomstick ranges you have little or no range penalty on your roll.

Do you have a reference for "otherwise treat as a slug"? I don't see anything like that in Campaigns (although that could be because they didn't have slugs in there). All Campaigns says is that you multiply both damage and DR, which is great for causing Major Wounds but makes no difference to actual damage.
So using a scattergun at short ranges has the plus of better chances of a Major Wound, but you lose the RoF bonus to hit (although you still have a beautifully low Rcl).

[Ulzgoroth]

Originally Posted by The Benj

Do you have a reference for "otherwise treat as a slug"? I don't see anything like that in Campaigns (although that could be because they didn't have slugs in there). All Campaigns says is that you multiply both damage and DR, which is great for causing Major Wounds but makes no difference to actual damage.
So using a scattergun at short ranges has the plus of better chances of a Major Wound, but you lose the RoF bonus to hit (although you still have a beautifully low Rcl).

Krommian correction, I think. See here.

Kromm seemed to think that was what was in the book, so I think we're save in assuming that that's the intended function.

[The Benj]

Originally Posted by Ulzgoroth

Krommian correction, I think. See here.

Kromm seemed to think that was what was in the book, so I think we're save in assuming that that's the intended function.

Thanks! Although it would have helped me more if you'd linked to a page his comments were actually on :)

That makes close-up shotgun so much better!
How it should work for things that AREN'T shotguns though, that's a different question.