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Old 10-07-2009, 02:11 PM   #211
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FWIW, the CWRQ/ODQ says use 25%, acknowledging the change but going the other way because the majority of people only have the books.

SPARK uses 33%. It's an option in the CWVD but set to 25% by default.
The green covered Compendium reprinted in 1998 ( In the UK ? ) has the +33% , but my imported version ( 1996/7 ) hasn't .

We need a 'living rulebook' - like GWS's Battlefleet Gothic game - to help weed out all these mistakes/contradictions !
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Old 10-07-2009, 02:12 PM   #212
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Well, I use +25% - what would you chaps prefer? Perhaps add an option to set it to +33%?

And yes- it does affect the design program: after all, the tires are shown with their correct DP in the layout graphics...
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Old 10-07-2009, 02:32 PM   #213
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Well, I use +25% - what would you chaps prefer? Perhaps add an option to set it to +33%?

And yes- it does affect the design program: after all, the tires are shown with their correct DP in the layout graphics...
Well as stated in ADQ 6/2 , +33% gives better numbers and was what the inventor was after in the first place . I'll see if I can find the quote .
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Old 10-07-2009, 02:42 PM   #214
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The ADQ Online Archives don't have 6/2 , but the have the Q&A page from 7/1 :

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Q. How do these #l%@?! tire options work, anyway?

A lot of people, everywhere
Sorry, my fault Here's the order of modifications:

1.Take a tire (std. HD, PR, or solid).
2. Steel-belt it, if desired (+50% cost, +50% weight, +34% DP).
3. Add Radial (+150% cost, 20% weight, -1 DP) or Off-Road (+20% cost, + 5 lbs. weight, no DP change) modifications.
4. Fireproof it (+100% cost).
5. Put it on a cycle (-50% weight).
Thus, we could take a solid tire ($500, 75 lbs., 12 DP), steelbelt it ($750, 112.5 lbs., 16 DP), make it Radial ($1,875, 135 lbs., 15 DP), and fireproof it ($3,750, 135 lbs., 15 DP). Expensive, but worth every penny In case you're interested, a set of four of these will set you back $15,000 and weigh 540 lbs.

Thus SB Standard tires = 4 DP , SB HDs = 8 DP , SB PRs = 12 DP , and SB Solids = 16 DP .
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Old 10-08-2009, 04:00 AM   #215
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Thanks, Racer, much appreciated!

Just redid the tire DP calculation and had to redo some tire graphics. It'll be in the next version :)
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Old 10-23-2009, 11:22 AM   #216
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Three of my 'no frills' cars from the Sample Vehicles in CWC thread .

The Tumbler II : Subcompact , X-hvy. Chassis , Improved Suspension , Small Power Plant w/SCs & PCs , 4 PR Tires , Driver , LMG Front , Explosive SD B , Standard Plastic Armor , F 30 , R 20 , L 20 , B 30 , T 10 , U 10 , 2-3pt Plastic Hubs Front , 2-3pt Plastic Guards Back , Accel. 5 , Top speed 90 , HC 3 , 2,723 lbs , $ 5,840 .

A Road Subcompact .

Auto Weasel : Subcompact , X-Hvy. Chassis , Hvy. Suspension , Medium PP , 4 PR Tires , Driver , LMG Front , SWC , High Torque Motors , Standard Plastic Armor , F 25 , R 18 , L 18 , B 21 , T 8 , U 8 , 2-2pt Plastic Hubs F , 2-2pt Plastic Guards B , Accel. 10 - 15 w/HTMs , Top speed 120 - 100 w/HTMs , HC 4 , 2,722 lbs , $ 6,158 .

An Accel. 10(+) Road Subcompact .

Breechloader : Compact , X-Hvy. Chassis , Hvy. Suspension , Medium PP w/PCs , 4 PR Tires , Driver , RR F , Mine Dropper B , Link from RR to MD , Standard Plastic Armor : F 60 , R 45 , L 45 , B 40 , T 15 , U 15 , 2-10pt Plastic Hubs F , 2-10pt Plastic Guards B , Accel. 5 , Top speed 90 , HC 3 , 4,380 lbs , $ 9,560 .

A Balanced Arena Compact .
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