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Old 10-04-2017, 07:39 PM   #11
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Default Re: [Basic] Disadvantage of the week: Addiction and Alcoholism

It shouldn't be assumed either way. Addictions are as unique as the addicts themselves.
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Old 10-05-2017, 06:57 AM   #12
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It just seems peculiar that if a drug is legal, it suddenly becomes easier to quit...
A couple of thoughts:
If a drug is legal, it's not that much effort to stay a user; as a result some people will coast along as users even if it's not hard to quit.
If a drug is illegal, being a user takes dedication (something like Compulsive Thrill Seeking or COH: FSK The Authorities) if it's not particularly addictive.

In both cases "legal" implies "and enforced" - marijuana is still illegal in Canada until next July, but many jurisdictions have stopped enforcing the simple possession laws because of the pending decriminalization.
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Old 10-05-2017, 07:21 AM   #13
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Just looking at a hole: Minor addictions are defined by having a particular negative point value. However, the main factor in what makes an addiction minor or not tends to be if it is legal or not (because addictions in the -10 or less sweet spot can get shifted around by the +5 that legality gets). It just seems peculiar that if a drug is legal, it suddenly becomes easier to quit...
Hangon, just digested what you're posting after having some coffee. They are not defined by having a particular negative point value; they're defined by having a particular negative point value before applying the legality modifier. The legality modifier doesn't turn something into something easier to quit. "Addiction" has a -5/-10/-15 cost that determines the strength of the addiction and a modifier for legality that's unrelated to the level of the addiction.
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Old 10-05-2017, 02:19 PM   #14
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I looked at basic again. On B122, under the sub-heading, "Minor Addictions", it specifies that - 5 point can be and zero point addictions must be treated as minor addictions that use different withdrawal rules, but neglects mentioning legality.
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Old 10-05-2017, 02:32 PM   #15
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Hangon, just digested what you're posting after having some coffee.
Speaking of minor addictions. Heh.
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Old 10-05-2017, 03:37 PM   #16
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The legality modifier doesn't turn something into something easier to quit.
I think he was talking about the way a legal addiction is easier to buy off, because the player doesn't have to save up so many earned points.
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Old 10-05-2017, 03:39 PM   #17
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I think he was talking about the way a legal addiction is easier to buy off, because the player doesn't have to save up so many earned points.
In the real world there's a lot more and cheaper support for quitting smoking than for quiting heroin, so maybe this actually makes sense.
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Old 10-09-2017, 05:10 AM   #18
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What I found lacking was some sort of broadly-approved game mechanic for gaining addiction from use of whatever. Yes, it varies IRL, but so do withdrawals.
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