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Old 10-02-2017, 10:56 PM   #1
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Default [DF] Question about existing Dungeon Fantasy PDFs

So, totally not new to GURPS, but I've been away for a long time and haven't really looked at much since 4th came out. I backed the Dungeon Fantasy kickstarter, and I have my copy. I really like what I see, and I'm looking forward to running at least a one shot...

All of this said, I see that there are tons of pre-existing support PDFs for Dungeon Fantasy in Warehouse 23. I know that most of these pre-date the boxed set.

My question is, which of the existing PDFs are mostly subsumed into the boxed set? Which PDFs do I NOT need, and which ones should I consider picking up?
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Old 10-03-2017, 12:55 AM   #2
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DF 1, 2, and 16 (not sure about 16) are pretty much covered. Some of 3 (some of the races) is also covered.
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Old 10-03-2017, 04:05 AM   #3
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DF 1, 2, and 16 (not sure about 16) are pretty much covered. Some of 3 (some of the races) is also covered.
I would say that DF 16 isn't covered at all. DFRPG includes the DF 2 outdoor content. If it contains anything from 16, it isn't that much. 16 expands on that in greater detail and still serves that purpose.

So you definitely do not need 1 or 2 (3 as well unless you want rules for mixing professions) and DF Monsters 1. Anything else can be useful, depending on where you want extra detail.
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Old 10-03-2017, 04:35 AM   #4
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(3 as well unless you want rules for mixing professions)
There's also the other racial templates. DFRPG contains only eight races (the most popular PC races, granted). DF3 contains more than twice that, including a variety of Elves. Basically the book is 13 pages of Racial Templates, 21 pages of Mixed Professions, and 6 pages of new abilities, power-ups, and advancement suggestions. So the Mixed Professions are by far the strongest reason to buy the book anyways.
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Old 10-03-2017, 07:47 AM   #5
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I wrote this a while ago.
http://pseudoboo.blogspot.com/2017/0...o-dungeon.html
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Seconded, this is a good guide!
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Old 10-03-2017, 08:25 AM   #7
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The Official™ story is that the Dungeon Fantasy Roleplaying Game makes GURPS Dungeon Fantasy 1: Adventurers, GURPS Dungeon Fantasy 2: Dungeons, GURPS Dungeon Fantasy Monsters 1, and GURPS Dungeon Fantasy Monsters 2: Icky Goo redundant. There are small parts of all the rest of the GURPS Dungeon Fantasy series in there as well – sometimes as small as a brief sentence, item listing, or added list item – but you'll find just about all the rest continues to serve a purpose. Probably the largest amounts of partial reuse come from GURPS Dungeon Fantasy 3: The Next Level (a small subset of racial templates, plus rules for character advancement) and GURPS Dungeon Fantasy 11: Power-Ups (a fairly small percentage of special professional abilities).
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There's also the other racial templates. DFRPG contains only eight races (the most popular PC races, granted). DF3 contains more than twice that, including a variety of Elves.
Many of these are in Monsters: orcs, goblins, hobgoblins, ogres, gargoyles, minotaurs, wildmen, any likely one or two others I missed.
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Probably the largest amounts of partial reuse come from GURPS Dungeon Fantasy 3: The Next Level (a small subset of racial templates, plus rules for character advancement)
I always like to have this book at hand, for extra character options like Shadow Elves (p. 7), Evil Clerics (p. 23) and Unholy Warriors (p. 27), which as "dark reflections" are very suitable and interesting for taking into account some kind of "metaphysical reversibility".
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Many of these are in Monsters: orcs, goblins, hobgoblins, ogres, gargoyles, minotaurs, wildmen, any likely one or two others I missed.
True, but not as playable races with point costs, which is what you get in DF3.
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