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Old 02-17-2017, 06:39 PM   #11
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You should consider it - and then expand it more.
I certainly will. I'm currently writing up a "worked example" for claiming family members as Dependent or as Enemy (Watcher), plus a Divine Curse called the Cassandra Complex which might be equally at home in GURPS: Horror.
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Old 02-17-2017, 07:05 PM   #12
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I certainly will. I'm currently writing up a "worked example" for claiming family members as Dependent or as Enemy (Watcher), plus a Divine Curse called the Cassandra Complex which might be equally at home in GURPS: Horror.
Cool! (I wrote up a variation of Cassandra's Curse in Pyramid #3/78: Unleash Your Soul)
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Old 02-17-2017, 08:21 PM   #13
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I love that kind of curse because the real horrors are caused by people suddenly realizing that they'd been warned and were idiots about it all.
Some of the words most likely to get one beaten are "I told you so."
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Old 02-17-2017, 08:33 PM   #14
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This write-up could be easily adapted for "kid sidekicks" in relevant supers games, either as PCs (as the write-up intends) or adjusted for NPCs. Good stuff!
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Old 02-17-2017, 08:50 PM   #15
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Cool! (I wrote up a variation of Cassandra's Curse in Pyramid #3/78: Unleash Your Soul)
That's pretty cool. Your version seems to deal with any advice that the character gives, whereas mine is more narrowly focused on statements that involve the supernatural. I should probably expand it to also include anything that involves imminent danger - after all, yelling "TERRORISTS!" will clear a room at least as quickly as yelling "WENDIGOS!", to the point where I expect that most Hunters would rather try the former in the first place.

We both seem to have based the cost around that of Delusion. My version ends with "If this phenomenon exists as a setting convention, rather than as a feature of a specific character, see Mask Of Humanity, Pyramid 3/97. For a controllable, advantageous version of this effect, consider the Shrouding skill from that article, or investing in Anti-Psi or Telepathy abilities."

I'm pretty sure Mask of Humanity was your article, so you'd be the guy to ask about it. I don't re-use any of the mechanics in there, but it's very conceptually similar.

In any event, if I do submit this document to Pyramid, that bit would be one of the first things I'd be willing to cut for length. It's related to the "Protagonists who are young and probably students" theme - it's a long-standing trope that adults have a harder time recognizing magical phenomena than do children - but only tangentially.

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This write-up could be easily adapted for "kid sidekicks" in relevant supers games, either as PCs (as the write-up intends) or adjusted for NPCs. Good stuff!
Thanks. I deliberately kept the lenses somewhat setting-generic to make these lenses easy to adapt for any setting where kids can kick butt on equal footing to adults.

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Old 02-17-2017, 09:30 PM   #16
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That's pretty cool. Your version seems to deal with any advice that the character gives, whereas mine is more narrowly focused on statements that involve the supernatural. I should probably expand it to also include anything that involves imminent danger - after all, yelling "TERRORISTS!" will clear a room at least as quickly as yelling "WENDIGOS!", to the point where I expect that most Hunters would rather try the former in the first place.
Yeah, that's worth about -5 points more I'd think.

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We both seem to have based the cost around that of Delusion. My version ends with "If this phenomenon exists as a setting convention, rather than as a feature of a specific character, see Mask Of Humanity, Pyramid 3/97. For a controllable, advantageous version of this effect, consider the Shrouding skill from that article, or investing in Anti-Psi or Telepathy abilities."
Interresting.

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I'm pretty sure Mask of Humanity was your article, so you'd be the guy to ask about it. I don't re-use any of the mechanics in there, but it's very conceptually similar.
Yes. It was. The concept is used in a LOT of places, so no big deal.

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In any event, if I do submit this document to Pyramid, that bit would be one of the first things I'd be willing to cut for length. It's related to the "Protagonists who are young and probably students" theme - it's a long-standing trope that adults have a harder time recognizing magical phenomena than do children - but only tangentially.
You really should. It's something I'd buy if it were submitted. :-)
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Old 02-18-2017, 01:48 AM   #17
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You might also consider adding an optional Duty to the list of disadvantages to represent when school responsibilities come up in a way that interferes with hunting. I was thinking something like Duty (School, Involuntary, Nonhazardous, 6 or 9) [-2 or -5]. This could represent a meddling or overzealous teacher or principle, or just the periodic need to spend extra time studying or doing extra credit in order to not fail. I don't think it should be mandatory because Social Stigma (Minor) probably covers the fact that you are supposed to be in school and pass your classes. This kind of Duty would represent an extra layer of scrutiny and difficulty.
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Old 02-18-2017, 04:08 AM   #18
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This is pretty cool, also the first time I've heard this term 'Lens', seems like how there's racial templates except for things other than races.

I especially like how it adds up to 0 points... are Lens like races where the disadvantages incorporated into them don't count in terms of suggested limits?
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Old 02-18-2017, 06:22 AM   #19
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I especially like how it adds up to 0 points... are Lens like races where the disadvantages incorporated into them don't count in terms of suggested limits?
No. The disads from a Lens still count against the total.
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Old 02-19-2017, 12:02 AM   #20
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This is pretty cool, also the first time I've heard this term 'Lens', seems like how there's racial templates except for things other than races.
See B449. A lens is a common variation on a template.
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