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Old 07-22-2013, 12:06 PM   #1
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What it says, an article on Brain Mapping. This kind of reasearch is the basis for a lot of the THS setting. Do we seem to be on track?
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Old 07-26-2013, 01:00 AM   #2
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Hard to say. The big neuroscience milestones in the THS timeline are still a ways out (unless you count AI, but early AI work, at least, is likely independent from brain mapping technology).

We seem to be behind on general biotech, though, which might prove problematic for keeping on track. We missed the 2010 deadline for human cloning (perhaps as much for ethical reasons as technical, but more conservative bioethics could certainly prevent many THS developments). The timeline says that a human clone is born in 2010, so even with the embryonic stem cell breakthrough in May, we're still behind schedule. And I'd be happy to be wrong on this, but I don't thing we're going to get the "cheap broad-spectrum AIDS vaccine" in 2016, either.
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Old 07-26-2013, 02:10 AM   #3
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THS while only superscience in a couple of aspects is so gonzo optimistic as to effectively be impossible.

Like how mapping the human genome didn't lead immediately to vast arrays of wonders, simply mapping the human brain won't either. I doubt it's any less complicated than our genome.
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Old 07-26-2013, 04:28 AM   #4
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We seem to be behind on general biotech, though, which might prove problematic for keeping on track. We missed the 2010 deadline for human cloning (perhaps as much for ethical reasons as technical, but more conservative bioethics could certainly prevent many THS developments). The timeline says that a human clone is born in 2010, so even with the embryonic stem cell breakthrough in May, we're still behind schedule.
I'll definitely agree with your general conclusions, but on that specific topic, I think we still have a tiny get-out. Anyone want to bet on the chances of the first human clone being a very secret private commission project?
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Old 07-26-2013, 10:27 AM   #5
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I'll definitely agree with your general conclusions, but on that specific topic, I think we still have a tiny get-out. Anyone want to bet on the chances of the first human clone being a very secret private commission project?
It could be possible. But I'm certain that we'd see the cloning of monkeys and apes well before we see the cloning of humans.
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I'll definitely agree with your general conclusions, but on that specific topic, I think we still have a tiny get-out. Anyone want to bet on the chances of the first human clone being a very secret private commission project?
There's still no getting around the Mengele level horror that there would have to be hundreds if not thousands of deformed short lived "mistakes" before the process is perfected.
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It could be possible. But I'm certain that we'd see the cloning of monkeys and apes well before we see the cloning of humans.
Every species is different from what I've heard, so monkey cloning knowledge isn't that applicable.
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Every species is different from what I've heard, so monkey cloning knowledge isn't that applicable.
Primates seem to have a series of problems in common, and the higher primates have even more issues. It seems unlikely to me that the first primate clone would be a human for the very reason you mentioned in your responce to Phil Masters.
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Primates seem to have a series of problems in common, and the higher primates have even more issues. It seems logical to me that the first primate clone would be a human for the very reason you mentioned in your responce to Phil Masters.
That would lead to the ethical issue of using knowledge gained from crimes against humanity for your supposedly more humane uses.
I can sympathize with both sides of that.
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That would lead to the ethical issue of using knowledge gained from crimes against humanity for your supposedly more humane uses.
I can sympathize with both sides of that.
No, I was suggesting that the chances of horriffic and pittiable outcomes was so great, that gaining the maxium possible relavent data was the only way to have a hope of avoiding crimes against humanity.

Beside cloning monkeys would be valuable for medical research and could be profitable. This would allow a community to grow that had skill and experience with Primate Cloning. vital if you want to clone a human without hideous side effects.
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