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Old 03-23-2013, 05:16 PM   #1
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Am planning on running a one-off game involving dwarves poking around in an abandoned mine. I've set up a 150pt template for PCs, but I've used 118 points up in just building a basic character. However, I've only allocated 22 pts worth of disadvantages, namely:
  • Greed (15 or less)
  • Overconfidence (12 or less)
  • Sense of Duty (team) (Small Group)
  • Social Stigma (Second-Class citizen)

The last one on that list is relevant to the setting. Some of you helped me knock around ideas on the thread Dwarven Governance and Economics, and I like the idea of the extended family group/clan being the basic economic unit in a Dwarven society. I am running with the basic premise that mining operations are managed by one family, other families deal with the transport, maintenance, actual mining or geological surveying.

However, every society has orphans. If you couple a strong societal value on the care and upbringing of children, a distrust of people not associated with proven (ie reputable) families, and a user pays principle, I can see orphanages that contract out their teenagers / early twentysomethings as explorers and teams that patrol the depths and underground caverns. Where the nasty goblins and other unmentionables live...

Basically the former orphans are sent where no one else would wisely go. And in my humble opinion, perfect for PCs in a one off GURPS game.

Thusly Q: What additional disadvantages would be suitable for a young Dwarf, raised in an orphanage, and expected to be sent out exploring and patrolling the underground depths which lie below a Dwarven mine?
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Old 03-23-2013, 05:34 PM   #2
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If its their job and it's dangerous and they cant' really say no, then they should have a Duty, potentially -15 or even -20.
They are also likely Poor, and should probably have Low Status on top of Social Stigma.

I think it's a bit boring to give ALL of them overconfidence. One could be Careful, one could be Curious.
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Old 03-23-2013, 05:35 PM   #3
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Off the top of my head, Duty, or perhaps some sort of Vow about not returning before proving themselves worthy.
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Old 03-23-2013, 05:46 PM   #4
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Alcoholism - it's bravery in a bottle.
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Old 03-23-2013, 05:50 PM   #5
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Alcoholism - it's bravery in a bottle.
Really any form of addiction and OPH as everyone already looks down on you, so why not be true to your inner jerk?
Lots of outcasts love scaring the "squares".
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Old 03-23-2013, 05:51 PM   #6
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... they should have a Duty, potentially -15 or even -20.. also likely Poor, and probably have Low Status on top of Social Stigma.

I think it's a bit boring to give ALL of them overconfidence. One could be Careful, one could be Curious.
Ta on the former. And excellent point on the later. Shall adjust accordingly.

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Off the top of my head, Duty, or perhaps some sort of Vow about not returning before proving themselves worthy.
Oh...Vow is good.

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Alcoholism - it's bravery in a bottle.
Prior to a source of income, a bit difficult to justify. After they have seen Things No Dwarf Should See, yes... but not quite yet.
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Old 03-23-2013, 09:00 PM   #7
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Wouldn't 2nd class dwarves be an overclass?
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Old 03-23-2013, 09:13 PM   #8
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If user pays applies to the orphans then Debt, which can be replaced with Duty. So they either owe so much service or cash.
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Old 03-23-2013, 11:35 PM   #9
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If user pays applies to the orphans then Debt, which can be replaced with Duty. So they either owe so much service or cash.
I meant it as figurative debt, rather than a literal one. I'm going to rationalise it as a Duty to working to maintaining the orphanage, with older former orphans running and training the younger ones.
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Old 03-24-2013, 12:09 AM   #10
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Prior to a source of income, a bit difficult to justify.
Plenty of alcoholics have no significant income. They buy booze instead of food, instead or rent, instead of clothes.
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