Statting Jackie Chan

[Danukian]

Originally Posted by roguebfl

so that at least 3 Degrees of Separation between Bruce and Jackie... Though I would not be surprized if you could not get closer though Jackie's earlier works

Edit, 1 Degree they're both in Qi lin zhang (Bruce Lee and I) (1973)

Jackie was also an unaccredited stunt-fighter/extra in a few Bruce Lee movies when he was young. In a martial art documentary I saw nearly 30yrs ago and can't remember the title, Jackie and Samo both credit Bruce with stating Jackie's career: Bruce Lee overshot move and blew the choreography, putting Jackie Chan in the ER for a few days, and really upset Bruce. When Mr. Lee came to visit Chan in the hospital to apologize, Jackie refused to accept any money and was insistent that Bruce have no guilt: the job of a stunt fighter is to take the hits and make the star look good, and it would be unprofessional of Jackie to do anything other than recover promptly and return to work. Brice Lee told all of the producers and stunt experts Jackie was an impressive stunt fight with an amazing work ethic, and his name went to the top of all their lists. Samo Hung is positive Jackie could have gotten a nice sports car out of Bruce instead of a career if he wanted it... ;)

[Danukian]

Originally Posted by roguebfl

Though I think they both would kick Norris's ass ;)

Well, Chuck Norris is 72, quite a bit older than both!

Originally Posted by aesir23

In fact, I think they would probably be great PCs in a game together, pretty balanced. Li has higher combat skills, good looks, and better acting chops and Chan has slightly higher physical stats generally, some combination of Luck and durability, and amazing mobility. They'd fill slightly different niches in a cinematic martial arts campaign.

I know quite a few ladies (my wife especially) who think Jackie has a higher Appearance than Jet. Plus, Jackie has oodles of Charisma. But yeah, very different roles - The happy-go-lucky amazing athlete and the serious dedicated artist.

As far as who would win in an GURPS Battle Royale - Chan-Li-Norris: I am pretty sure under GURPS Rules, Norris and Li would surrender with broken fists after Jackie is still rolling around with 2/3rds of his bones broken! :)

[Flyndaran]

Originally Posted by Danukian

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As far as who would win in an GURPS Battle Royale - Chan-Li-Norris: I am pretty sure under GURPS Rules, Norris and Li would surrender with broken fists after Jackie is still rolling around with 2/3rds of his bones broken! :)

The parable of the bully and the crazy boy.

[Figleaf23]

No-one has mentioned High Pain Threshold, but I think doing stunts injured implies it and I believe the Peking Opera trained it specifically through harsh treatment.

[roguebfl]

Originally Posted by Figleaf23

No-one has mentioned High Pain Threshold, but I think doing stunts injured implies it and I believe the Peking Opera trained it specifically through harsh treatment.

I remember during the filming of one of his American films he injures his ankle/foot in such away it needed a cast. So they had wardrobe make the cast look like his costume's shoe and went back to filming

[Kage2020]

Originally Posted by roguebfl

I remember during the filming of one of his American films he injures his ankle/foot in such away it needed a cast. So they had wardrobe make the cast look like his costume's shoe and went back to filming

Rumble in the Bronx. There was a hovercraft involved, if I'm not mistaken too much.

[starslayer]

Originally Posted by Kage2020

Rumble in the Bronx. There was a hovercraft involved, if I'm not mistaken too much.

Yea, if I recall the incident he fell off the hovercraft, and was then run over by it; being momentarily subjected to spinning blades mere inches over his head, and enough airforce pushing down to lift the hovercraft for several seconds before it finished running him over, and for that he suffered a broken ankle from the impact of the skirt.


High pain threshold probably is on there as well. Also I think combat reflexes, not because of his ability for actual combat, but for his ability to think quickly in hazardous situations to keep himself from getting more hurt.

[aesir23]

Originally Posted by starslayer

High pain threshold probably is on there as well. Also I think combat reflexes, not because of his ability for actual combat, but for his ability to think quickly in hazardous situations to keep himself from getting more hurt.

I definitely agree that Jackie's a candidate for High Pain Threshold (also high Will, or at least a few levels of Fearlessness).

I'm not so sure about Combat Reflexes. I might give it too him just because I can't imagine him freezing if he was surprised. I'm probably giving him too much benefit of the doubt. IIRC, Jackie Chan has been in exactly 1 fight in his life--and I certainly can't make assumptions based on his movie personas. High Basic Speed, certainly.

However, if we were to dip our toes into cinematic traits for a moment, if any real world person has Daredevil....

[Refplace]

Originally Posted by aesir23

I'm not so sure about Combat Reflexes. I might give it too him just because I can't imagine him freezing if he was surprised. I'm probably giving him too much benefit of the doubt. IIRC, Jackie Chan has been in exactly 1 fight in his life--and I certainly can't make assumptions based on his movie personas. High Basic Speed, certainly.

I am willing to give Combat Reflexes to anyone who has been in and handled physically dangerous and unpredictable situations fairly often. That includes fireman and high risk stuntmen. He has been in enough situations where I dont think he is likely to freeze in a real combat or dangerous situation.

[aesir23]

Originally Posted by Refplace

I am willing to give Combat Reflexes to anyone who has been in and handled physically dangerous and unpredictable situations fairly often. That includes fireman and high risk stuntmen. He has been in enough situations where I dont think he is likely to freeze in a real combat or dangerous situation.

Fair enough. I can live with that.