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Old 04-23-2017, 07:30 AM   #1
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Default Magery and Innate Attack skill

Hey, does Magery add to Innate Attack skill when using the skill to direct an attack created via magical spell?

If it was a case of an ability with magical limitation and with magery as the power talent, it would add, but alas, above it's not the case.

Edit: OK, by RAW I think it doesn't, so my question comes: should it?
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Old 04-23-2017, 08:54 AM   #2
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Default Re: Magery and Innate Attack skill

As you found, it does not.

As to the follow up question:

Short answer: No, it should not.

Long answer: Unlike typical power based builds where the power talent affects a fairly low number of things, magery often gives a bonus to several dozen spells and is thus really too low price at 10 points/level compared to other talents. Giving it even more effect thus seems the opposite of balancing that.

But in the end such things are up to the GM to balance.
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Old 04-23-2017, 03:24 PM   #3
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Default Re: Magery and Innate Attack skill

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Hey, does Magery add to Innate Attack skill when using the skill to direct an attack created via magical spell?

If it was a case of an ability with magical limitation and with magery as the power talent, it would add, but alas, above it's not the case.

Edit: OK, by RAW I think it doesn't, so my question comes: should it?
In my games I allow a leveled perk that allows appropriate skills to benefit from Magery. Innate Attack is one of the options. it works quite well.
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Old 04-23-2017, 04:09 PM   #4
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I allow Attribute Substitution perk to base it off IQ which helps spellcasters some
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Old 04-23-2017, 06:27 PM   #5
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Not really. However, the Psychic Guidance perk from GURPS Magical Styles allows you to use your skill with the spell to make the attack roll.
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Old 04-23-2017, 06:37 PM   #6
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Hey, does Magery add to Innate Attack skill when using the skill to direct an attack created via magical spell?

If it was a case of an ability with magical limitation and with magery as the power talent, it would add, but alas, above it's not the case.

Edit: OK, by RAW I think it doesn't, so my question comes: should it?
No. Magery is enough of a good deal. The reason why a power talent boosts your Innate Attack with a magic innate attack is because really there's nothing else for it to do. Having a power talent won't help reduce your fatigue cost, let you cast silently or reduce your failure chance apart from inaccuracy.
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Old 04-23-2017, 06:42 PM   #7
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Either way is fine, but be aware if the implications. It will emphasise Different spells and combat style.
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Old 04-27-2017, 01:50 PM   #8
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I disagree that magery is 'too good of a deal' and instead say that any talent costing more than 10/level is broken unless it covers a staggering number of both iq and DX skills and has a useful reaction bonus (reason IQ! costs 10/level and DX! costs 15).

With that said magery does not add to your spell attack skills, because it does cover a staggering number of iq based skills, controls access to higher level magic, and increases your maximum damage with ball spells. Having it cover other skills is asking too much.
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