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Old 03-30-2020, 06:03 PM   #7
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Default Re: Villains worth Stealing!

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Originally Posted by Johnny1A.2 View Post
Helmuth, from E.E. Smith's Galactic Patrol. Thoroughly bad, but in an efficient, effective, intelligent way. He's the sort of man who, if he'd grown up in a sane society, would be a hero. He's actually a more dangerous opponent than many of the later, higher ranking Boskonians Kimball Kinnison would defeat, it makes me wonder if the Arisians didn't arrange for Helmuth to go down early because he was too dangerous to be allowed to gain more power.

John Marcone, from The Dresden Files. A mobster, but one with a few redeeming features (not many, he's definitely still a bad guy), but like Helmuth, intelligent, capable, and efficient. Totally unsentimental, doesn't waste time monologuing or with meaningless chit-chat, won't hesitate to shoot you in cold blood if you give him backtalk, but not sadistic about it.

Actually, he and Helmuth have some traits in common.

Baron Vladimir Harkonnen. Far more personally corrupt and perverse than either of the previous two, but still dangerously intelligent and effective. His effectiveness is somewhat reduced by his personal corruption, though.

Arguably Feanor, from Tolkien's stories. He's a classic case of 'madness makes the villain', but also a good exemplar of just that sort of villainy, driven by passion out of control of conscience and humility.

Which is a tendency. The most effective villains tend to be the ones who still have some good in them. As corruption proceeds, evil tends to be self-defeating because the very behaviors it produces work against itself.
I liked Morden better than Bester

Aycharach from Dominic Flandry. He really had a cause but was so cruel as to render it meaningless. Not just in the exigencies of war. On one occasion he psionically enslaved an ethnicity for reasons that had nothing to do with that. Despite that he had a beautiful physical appearance and more than a little charm.

Dukat from DS9: He had alongside his cunning a weird mixture of charm and "All-about-me" attitude.
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