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Jaware · 11-23-2017, 04:31 AM

I think I know how this works.

Under the paragraph for control points, it states that even a cp roll of 0 on a grapple attack and a grabbing parry is still a grip on the opponent.

but then in the sweat and armor paragraph it says that a roll of -cp in not a grip.

my intuition says that it prrrooobbbabbblllyyy does. Hence grabbing parry at low is st or trained st is pretty much worthless. Eg 1d-4 cp won't score much if ever.

but if it's at least a "grip" allowing lots of stuff like arm locks, throws, etc.

But i dont know for sure.

Could someone clarify for me?

11-23-2017, 04:31 AM	#1
Jaware Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Everywhere and Nowhere	Quick question on technical grappling. I think I know how this works. Under the paragraph for control points, it states that even a cp roll of 0 on a grapple attack and a grabbing parry is still a grip on the opponent. but then in the sweat and armor paragraph it says that a roll of -cp in not a grip. my intuition says that it prrrooobbbabbblllyyy does. Hence grabbing parry at low is st or trained st is pretty much worthless. Eg 1d-4 cp won't score much if ever. but if it's at least a "grip" allowing lots of stuff like arm locks, throws, etc. But i dont know for sure. Could someone clarify for me?