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Dinadon · 10-11-2020, 05:02 PM

The rules for visibility are on pg.394, and they will answer most of your questions. The rules for Wild Swing are pretty clear on which penalty to use (namely, the worst).

As for shooting blind, just because a muscle powered weapon is using thrust damage doesn't make it a thrust attack. A thrust or swing is a qualifier for melee attacks that determines which damage a melee attack uses. A ranged attack is never a thrust or a swing.

Also, the appendices should not be taken as an authority on rules. Ideally, they would match, but when they don't it's the primary text takes precendence over the appendix.

10-11-2020, 05:02 PM	#2
Dinadon Join Date: Aug 2007	Re: when to use -4 or -6 instead of -5 to hit unseen foes in melee combat The rules for visibility are on pg.394, and they will answer most of your questions. The rules for Wild Swing are pretty clear on which penalty to use (namely, the worst). As for shooting blind, just because a muscle powered weapon is using thrust damage doesn't make it a thrust attack. A thrust or swing is a qualifier for melee attacks that determines which damage a melee attack uses. A ranged attack is never a thrust or a swing. Also, the appendices should not be taken as an authority on rules. Ideally, they would match, but when they don't it's the primary text takes precendence over the appendix.