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Originally Posted by Tinman
I was thinking that a 17+ fails automaticly.
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Concepts such as critical success, critical failure, and automatic failure normally matter only for straight, uncontested success rolls. Reread
Margin of Victory (p. B348) and you'll see that Quick Contests are purely quantitative and do not care about qualitative degrees of success. Notably, "The winner's 'margin of victory' is . . . the difference between the loser's margin of failure and his margin of failure if both failed." You can
fail and still win! All that matters is margin, found from each party's dice roll and
full score.
Resistance rolls are special and unusual because you must succeed to win. But that rule applies only when a Contest is specifically called out as a
resistance roll.
Choke or Strangle (pp. B370-371) is a Quick Contest, not a resistance roll.
Feints are also special and unusual because you must succeed to win
and margin of victory is worked out according to rules that don't add your foe's margin of failure to your margin of victory. See p. B365.
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Originally Posted by Tinman
Also for Margin if the target is a 14 & I roll a 14 doesn't that count as pass by 1?
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No, that counts as success by 0. It's still enough to win if your opponent fails by 1+. But for anything that depends purely on margin of success, your margin is 0, not 1. A few rules do assign a minimum margin of 1 to any
uncontested success, but those are special cases. Strangling, resistance rolls, feints . . . none of those are among those special cases. Mostly, those special cases arise when margin of success is used to calculate duration or a similar parameter.