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Old 04-07-2017, 09:27 AM   #31
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Default Re: International Relations and Implications of US Supersoldier Experiments in 2017

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I actually think you have a perfectly plausible vector to include anybody you like. During the period in which nobody thought there were any results, any of the former subjects could have openly and legally immigrated to any country in the world, or started displaying weird effects and powers and gone to any medical or scientific organization for help.
True and if the GM is looking for other powers to add, they might.

For the next adventure, I'm specifically looking for the polity that Col. Ortiz (as per background in this post) would have conspired with to apply for asylum for him and his men, who'd be deserters at that point, and their families. He'd need help getting him and his men out of Mexico and their families out of the US. And he'd have reason to suspect they were under surveillance in the US, either by a super-secret Homeland Security led task force or an illegal conspiracy with members belonging to several agencies under the DHS, as well as other organisations.

Given Col. Ortiz professional background, he'd have the best contacts within military Special Mission Units, military intelligence and other intelligence organisations of countries within the operations area of US SOCOM South and the 7th SFG (A), i.e. Central and South America and the Carribbean.

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For that matter in the absence of any results, there would have been no reason to run an illegal cover-up, so there ought to be at least some sort of notation in their medical files they could have requested to have sent to any physician or insurance company on the planet too.
They weren't covering up any results, they were covering up unethical experimental protocol, security breaches and criminal misconduct made possible by lax supervision, too much latitude given to scientists with close personal ties to senior officers and, probably at least, financial and other advantage enjoyed by private biotech outfits with ties to decision-makers in the DoD.

You know, standard government bureaucracy stuff, especially when anything embarrassing can be hidden by slapping Top Secret - Special Compartmentized Intelligence on it.

The experimented ended after two test subjects who were in custody awaiting court martial escaped, killing three people. Their crimes didn't have anything to do with the experiment, but a senior scientist had used his influence at DARPA, with certain US Army official and at the DoD to delay the proceedings and allow them to be in custody in Project Jade Serenity facilities, in order not to lose the last few weeks of trial data.

Absent a cover-up, there would probably have been a full investigation, implicating several officers from Captain up to Major General in potentialy illegal acts, not to mention revealing in the media that the US Army was conducting experiments on people of the sort that the media would blow up into a huge deal.

Eh, actually, a proper investigation would probably reveal that most of the science behind the drugs came from experiments on prisoners and mental patients, not all of whom were capable of giving valid consent. And that this wasn't 'ancient' history like MKULTRA or the Tuskegee Study, but continued into the 90s and involved a lot of people still part of the DoD or the US Army, not to mention most of the scientists on Project Jade Serenity.

Some of whom, under a Dr. Edward Vanderbert, clearly had been falsifying records and taking advantage of institutionalised secrecy to get away with frankly shocking abuses. All of which would reflect on those legally responsible, even when they had been deceived themselves.

A lot of people also took part in the cover-up for the good of the Army or the country, even if they hadn't personally anything to lose, to avoid having their institutions suffer a similar loss of public trust as the CIA did in the 70s. In my experience, if they survive long enough, most institutions fundamentally exist to preserve and protect themselves from any negative consequence, regardless of what the original purpose was.
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