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Originally Posted by phayman53
Just wondering, are the inventing rules in After the End 2 different than the rules in Campaigns?
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The inventing rules in ATE2 are significantly different from those in the Basic Set, but part of that is how they're tightly married to ATE's unique take on TL and value of equipment.
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Basically, we are running a TL2 Monster Hunters game, so the amount of wealth required for inventions is prohibitively high (and he did not want to play a Quick Gadgeteer).
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Well, the one big change I made to the (non-Quick) Gadgeteer advantage in ATE2 was to treat it as a halfway point between "normal inventor" and Quick Gadgeteer, rather than as its own thing. If you were to take that approach, you could use the times given in ATE2 for Gadgeteers; those actually do carry over great as-is.
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After the End does not seem to have the these facilities costs, so I was wondering if sub-standard facilities are rolled into the skill modifiers listed in After the End's invention tables?
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Yep! The rules assume that you're working out of a terrible workplace. As such, normal inventors suffer the full -5 for improvised equipment, Gadgeteers suffer a lesser version (-2), and Quick Gadgeteers take no penalty at all. That seemed like a fair way to handle it. That's why the bonuses on the Workspace Table (ATE2, p. 41) are so much more generous for normies than for techies.
I think what you might want are actually the rules and guidelines from GURPS Mars Attacks (pp. 53-54), which supports normal folks inventing stuff (using the core invention rules) out of their homes. The most relevant bit is that using the right type of facility, but one that doesn't cost enough, imposes -2; working out of a well-stocked garage lab or similar personal setup is -5; and working in a tool shed, etc., is -10.