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hal · 11-17-2018, 03:14 PM

Curb weight is the normal weight of everything for a vehicle - tires, transmission fluids, oil for normal operation etc. In theory, it is the unladen weight of the car in the sense of no passengers or cargo.

Car Wars goes on to say that the max weight includes the weight of the frame and everything else - which implies that it is very close to the curb weight in my mind (showing all work/thoughts in case they need correction!).

Max weight seems to be (based on classification) a value that ranges between 1.3 (subcompact) to 2.06 (see below) times the frame weight. Changes to suspension of course, changes the ratio...

Subcompact: 1.3
Compact: 1.85
Mid-sized: 2
Sedan: 2
Luxury: 2.06
Station wagon: 2.06
Pickup: 2.1
Camper: 1.83
Van: 2

So, the idea is to see (largely out of curiosity - possibly for use with later conversions of real world data to Car Wars perhaps) what the real world data relationship is to the Car Wars data...

Addenda: It appears that the modern classifications for how much volume in cubic feet assigned to passengers/driver plus cargo exceed the values given in GURPS AUTODUEL for the ENTIRE vehicle of a given class. <sigh>

11-17-2018, 03:14 PM	#14
hal Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Buffalo, New York	Re: Fifty caliber under the hood? How Gauche. Curb weight is the normal weight of everything for a vehicle - tires, transmission fluids, oil for normal operation etc. In theory, it is the unladen weight of the car in the sense of no passengers or cargo. Car Wars goes on to say that the max weight includes the weight of the frame and everything else - which implies that it is very close to the curb weight in my mind (showing all work/thoughts in case they need correction!). Max weight seems to be (based on classification) a value that ranges between 1.3 (subcompact) to 2.06 (see below) times the frame weight. Changes to suspension of course, changes the ratio... Subcompact: 1.3 Compact: 1.85 Mid-sized: 2 Sedan: 2 Luxury: 2.06 Station wagon: 2.06 Pickup: 2.1 Camper: 1.83 Van: 2 So, the idea is to see (largely out of curiosity - possibly for use with later conversions of real world data to Car Wars perhaps) what the real world data relationship is to the Car Wars data... Addenda: It appears that the modern classifications for how much volume in cubic feet assigned to passengers/driver plus cargo exceed the values given in GURPS AUTODUEL for the ENTIRE vehicle of a given class. <sigh> Last edited by hal; 11-17-2018 at 03:43 PM. Reason: Addenda added