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Old 12-24-2019, 07:10 AM   #286
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Default Re: A Challenger Appears! Green versus Red

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Originally Posted by ericthered View Post
I'm wondering what the difference between a slam and a shove are now.
Shoves begin with establishing light contact with bent limbs and then force is applied to extend the limbs, so there is more push but less impact. Knockback is largely due to grinding.

Slams are hits (like punches) begin with no contact and the force is applied mostly prior to contact happening so that there's a sudden impact/deceleration near full extension of limbs. Knockback is largely due to built-up momentum.

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Originally Posted by ericthered View Post
They're treated very differently, but I'm not sure that they should be.
I could definitely see acknowledging intermediate forms between pushing and punching, like if we viewed push as 100% knockback and punch as 50% knockback 50% damage, you might also do 75% knockback and 25% damage.

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Originally Posted by ericthered View Post
Using it only for stopping slams and calculating knockback that happens anyways sounds solid.
The "subtract your shove damage" approach to parrying a slam seems like it would make sense for the "I'm trying to slow them down, not divert them left or right" especially if success doesn't mean they automatically evade you like with a dodge.
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