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ldorn · 06-14-2018, 10:04 PM

What I want to see is army lists for Melee. Ronald Pehr and others just generalized what historical troops would be like in Melee but never gave us any concrete lists to work with. What I'm referring to would be something like this:

Italian League Wars

French Gendarmerie, Italian Men-at-Arms

1. ST: 13 DX: 8 IQ: 8 MA: 6 +3 pts
(Sword, Ax/Mace, Pole Weapons, Shield, Horsemanship)

Weapons ST Damage Notes
Dagger - 1-1 Can be thrown
Broadsword 12 2
Mace 11 2-1
Cavalry Lance 13 3-1 Only usable mounted

Armor DX- Hits Stopped MA Notes
Fine Plate 4 6 6 French Gendarmerie
Plate Armor 6 5 6 Italian Men-at-Arms
Large Shield 1 2 -

Has Warhorse with full barding.

French Horse “Archer”, Spanish Jinetes

2. ST: 12 DX: 8 IQ: 8 MA: 6 +4 pts. Dagger, Broadsword, Lance (Spear), Mace (Spanish replace Mace with Small Ax)
(Sword, Ax/Mace, Pole Weapons, Horsemanship)

Weapons ST Damage Notes
Dagger - 1-1 Can be thrown
Broadsword 12 2
Mace 11 2-1
Small Ax 11 1+2 Spanish Horseman Ax
Lance (Spear) 11 1

Has Warhorse with no barding

Armor DX- Hits Stopped MA Notes
Plate Armor 6 5 6 Italian Men-at-Arms
Large Shield 1 2 -

Swiss Mercenaries, German Landsknecht, French Ordonnance, Spanish Veteran, Italian Condotta Infantry

3. (Pikeman) ST: 13 DX: 8 IQ: 8 MA: 6 3 pts Dagger, Halberd or Pike, Chainmail (Germans add: Shortsword)
(Knife, Pole Arms (Germans replace Knife with Sword)

4. (Shield and Buckler Infantry) ST: 12 DX: 8 IQ: 8 MA: 6 +4 pts Broadsword, Knife, Chainmail, Small Shield

5. (Crossbowman) ST: 15 DX: 8 IQ: 8 MA 6 +1 pts Lt. or Hvy Crossbow (Germans add: Shortsword), Chainmail, Tower Shield
(Dagger, Crossbow, (German adds: Sword))

6. () ST: 8 DX: 8 IQ: 8 MA: 6 +8 pts. Arquebus, Chainmail, Tower Shield (Germans add Shortsword)
(Knife, Guns (Germans replaces Knife with Sword))

7. (German Zweihander) ST: 8 DX: 8 IQ: 8 MA 6 +8 pts. 2-handed Sword, Chainmail

Weapons ST Damage Notes
Dagger - 1-1 Can be thrown
Halberd 13 2 Two Handed
Pike 12 2+1 Two Handed
2-handed Sword 14 3-1 Two Handed, German Zweihander
Broadsword 12 2 German Kriegsmesser
Shortsword 11 2-1 German Katzbalger
Light Crossbow 11 1+2 adjDX 14: fire every other turn
Heavy Crossbow 15 3 AdjDX 16: fire every 3rd turn
Arquebus - 3+3 Two Handed

Armor DX- Hits Stopped MA Notes
Chainmail 3 3 6
Small Shield 0 1 -
Tower Shield 2 3 - Pavise Shield

List Notes: All figures are 32 pts. A Pavise Shield has a spike on the bottom that was driven into the ground allowing Crossbowmen and Arquebusiers to use the shield as cover when they were firing.

Something like this could be handed out to who I was playing against for a quick game of Melee, or be used as the basis (when combined with the Heroes ideas) for a ITL character.

While I imagine the first such book would be for the various forces of Cidri, it would be nice to have some historical books as well.

06-14-2018, 10:04 PM	#36
ldorn Join Date: Jun 2012	Re: Expansions and Splat books for TFT. What I want to see is army lists for Melee. Ronald Pehr and others just generalized what historical troops would be like in Melee but never gave us any concrete lists to work with. What I'm referring to would be something like this: Italian League Wars *French Gendarmerie, Italian Men-at-Arms* 1. ST: 13 DX: 8 IQ: 8 MA: 6 +3 pts (Sword, Ax/Mace, Pole Weapons, Shield, Horsemanship) Weapons ST Damage Notes Dagger - 1-1 Can be thrown Broadsword 12 2 Mace 11 2-1 Cavalry Lance 13 3-1 Only usable mounted Armor DX- Hits Stopped MA Notes Fine Plate 4 6 6 French Gendarmerie Plate Armor 6 5 6 Italian Men-at-Arms Large Shield 1 2 - Has Warhorse with full barding. French Horse “Archer”, Spanish Jinetes 2. ST: 12 DX: 8 IQ: 8 MA: 6 +4 pts. Dagger, Broadsword, Lance (Spear), Mace (Spanish replace Mace with Small Ax) (Sword, Ax/Mace, Pole Weapons, Horsemanship) Weapons ST Damage Notes Dagger - 1-1 Can be thrown Broadsword 12 2 Mace 11 2-1 Small Ax 11 1+2 Spanish Horseman Ax Lance (Spear) 11 1 Has Warhorse with no barding Armor DX- Hits Stopped MA Notes Plate Armor 6 5 6 Italian Men-at-Arms Large Shield 1 2 - *Swiss Mercenaries, German Landsknecht, French Ordonnance, Spanish Veteran, Italian Condotta* Infantry** 3. (Pikeman) ST: 13 DX: 8 IQ: 8 MA: 6 3 pts Dagger, Halberd or Pike, Chainmail (Germans add: Shortsword) (Knife, Pole Arms (Germans replace Knife with Sword) 4. (Shield and Buckler Infantry) ST: 12 DX: 8 IQ: 8 MA: 6 +4 pts Broadsword, Knife, Chainmail, Small Shield 5. (Crossbowman) ST: 15 DX: 8 IQ: 8 MA 6 +1 pts Lt. or Hvy Crossbow (Germans add: Shortsword), Chainmail, Tower Shield (Dagger, Crossbow, (German adds: Sword)) 6. () ST: 8 DX: 8 IQ: 8 MA: 6 +8 pts. Arquebus, Chainmail, Tower Shield (Germans add Shortsword) (Knife, Guns (Germans replaces Knife with Sword)) 7. (German Zweihander) ST: 8 DX: 8 IQ: 8 MA 6 +8 pts. 2-handed Sword, Chainmail Weapons ST Damage Notes Dagger - 1-1 Can be thrown Halberd 13 2 Two Handed Pike 12 2+1 Two Handed 2-handed Sword 14 3-1 Two Handed, German Zweihander Broadsword 12 2 German Kriegsmesser Shortsword 11 2-1 German Katzbalger Light Crossbow 11 1+2 adjDX 14: fire every other turn Heavy Crossbow 15 3 AdjDX 16: fire every 3rd turn Arquebus - 3+3 Two Handed Armor DX- Hits Stopped MA Notes Chainmail 3 3 6 Small Shield 0 1 - Tower Shield 2 3 - Pavise Shield List Notes: All figures are 32 pts. A Pavise Shield has a spike on the bottom that was driven into the ground allowing Crossbowmen and Arquebusiers to use the shield as cover when they were firing. Something like this could be handed out to who I was playing against for a quick game of Melee, or be used as the basis (when combined with the Heroes ideas) for a ITL character. While I imagine the first such book would be for the various forces of Cidri, it would be nice to have some historical books as well.