[Gavynn]

Originally Posted by Zorian

"suffer toil and hunger" This could just be seen as showing them having significantly higher HT scores say 12 - 14 instead of other advantages.

"stone-hard, hurt of body" The higher str score gives more HP which represents this to a degree. Though a DR of 1 couldn't hurt. Also High pain threshold could be argued as well.

Stubborn as a racial flaw seems good ,though maybe at a self control of -15.

Good point. A racial HT of 12 woult put them far above the other races as far as toil, hunger, and even resisting the effects of damage as they would stay conscience longer and avoid insta-death better. It would also simplify the template.

EDIT: Dwarves should be Indomitable, but not with Cosmic. I'd reserve Cosmic for really powerful beings like the Maiar, who really have nothing to be afraid of. Tom Bombadil would be a good example. Gimli was quite afrad of the Balrog in Moria, for example; he was not immune to greed either.

Agreed. The secretive should be there in some capacity as well.

To be fair, there is really no such thing as 'typical human' when doing campaign applied comparisons. For a ME comparison, are we using a typical man of Dale, an Easterling, a Northerner? Each will have campaign applied mods that should be balanced or canceled out against those of other races, imo.

I think the typical man of Dale, Easterling, Dunlending, Haradrim, or general Eriadorans, men of Rohan, or Gondor are built off zero point templates. The templates for the races of Men, though are still forthcoming. (Well, technically they are waiting my conversion from my 3rd ed notes).

I see you have editionitis. ;) In forth ed. str is tied to HP and HT is tied to FP. Unless this thread is assuming 3rd ed , then I will feel silly. Now that I think about it I agree that the indomiable shouldn't have cosmic but the mind shield should.

My templates are for 4th edition. Cosmic Mid Shield sounds like a good idea.