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Old 10-22-2018, 04:13 PM   #14
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Default Re: Post nuke Alaska

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Originally Posted by The Colonel View Post
I understand that the Amerindian tribes are still pretty cohesive up there - presumably they would form a significant part of any post collapse society.
Calling the natives amerindian can start fights. It's considered offensive by most of my Native friends.

The major ethnic groups of Alaska Natives:

Yupiq Eskimo
Inupiaq Eskimo
Aleut
The "indians" Tlingit, Tsimshian, Haida, Athabanscan, Metlakatla
Aluutiq

Also, don't use "inuit" for the Alaskan Eskimos, Aluutiq nor Aleut. My eskimo aquaintances point out that the Inuit are the east coast of Canada's Eskimo.

Also, they're under 20% of the population of the state; a quick lookup shows 16%, and about half live in the cities.

Alaska current population estimate is about 740K.
Anchorage Metro Area/Municipality (Anchorage, JBER, Girdwood, Indian, Eagle River, Birchwood, Chugiak, Thunderbird Falls, and Eklutna) is about 385K
Fairbanks/North Star Borough: about 100K
Juneau-Douglas Municipality: 32K
Kenai: about 8K
Soldotna: 5K (contiguous to Kenai)
Homer: about 6K
Seward: about 3K
Palmer: about 7K
Wasilla: About 10K
Houston: 2K
Big Lake: 3K

The Mat-Su borough is about 100K, and mostly suburban, but it includes the cities/towns of Palmer, Wasilla, Houston and Big Lake (and a few more I can't remember)

The Fairbanks Borough is about 100K total, counting one or both of Wainright and Eilson.

Juneau and Douglass are over 95% of the Juneau borough.

That's about 560K people (without the rounding for above), or 75% of the state in just those cities/towns.

A nuke at JBER will also hit most of Anchorage, JBER, and parts of Eagle River, Chugiak, and Birchwood. If big enough, it will also hit Palmer-Wasilla-Houston-Big Lake.

Put the nuke under the water of the arm, and you can tsunami both the Anchorage & JBER area, and the suburban sprawl of Mat-Su Borough.

Likewise, a big bomb underwater in the Gastineau Channel, and you tsunami Juneau & Douglas, and also potentially hit many of the smaller villages in the panhandle.


It should only take about 2 big nukes for the Fairbanks area. that will also poison the water for Nome... and it will also destroy the pipeline.

Valdez gets one - it's the pipeline terminus - unless you want to take the oil. But then you cannot hit Fairbanks area with anything bigger than tacnukes at Eilson, Wainright, and Greely.

Major ports: Anchorage, Whittier, Homer, Valdez, Seward, Kenai/Soldotna, Juneau, and Nome. Each needs to be hit. Anchorage, Juneau, and Kenai get big ones;

Note that Alaska has almost no manufacturing capabilities, too. Take out the major metros and ports, and the economy instantly collapses.

Most of the natives are not capable of self-support by traditional means - you can also write off about half of them as they live in the cities that get nuked.

Note that a nuke in Fairbanks will have almost no effect on Mat-Su nor Anchorage, and vice-versa - the mountains will pretty much hide even the cloud. A nuke in Juneau will have almost no effect on Anchorage, and none at all on fairbanks.
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