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Old 02-10-2018, 04:59 AM   #7
L.J.Steele
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Default Re: Surprising unbalance....

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Originally Posted by Icelander View Post
I assume that it's a Quick Contest against the Forensics of the crime scene techs, if they are brought in, with them possibly receiving equipment and extra time bonuses, at least in wealthy nations with relatively low crime rates, where even suspected homicides may call for nultiple experts spending hours or even days going over crime scenes.

What skill does a detective use to notice whether someone is a crime scene or not (and thus whether to call in Forensics at all)? Criminology (floated to Per, maybe), Observation or Search? QC against Housekeeping, if that is used to remove traces.

What base time would we use for Housekeeping cleaning a car where someone was shot? (The Wolf was clearly absorbing hefty penalties for reduced time due to the Bonnie Situation, but his cinematically awesome skill made it okay)

What about wiping away traces of a burglary using Lockpicking and the Search of an office?

And which medical skills do you use/need for concealing evidence of crimes?
Depends much on how realistic your world is. For modern America, if you can make it look like an accident, suicide, or obvious robbery/drug crime, then the responding patrol officers may tromp all over the crime scene before anyone higher up notices something hinky. Autopsies is routine for an unexplained death. A detective will show up fairly soon and start taking control of the scene. The detective usually calls the crime scene techs and to some extent decides what tests get run by the lab. Everybody involved is usually overworked, underpaid, and grateful when there's an obvious suspect to build a case against. (OK, I'm over generalizing a tad, but it's been a work week to make one cynical.)

On the other extreme is the high profile incident where the problem is the brass and politicians who want to see the scene and contaminate the heck out of it in the process. (See the Sandy Hook State Police report discussions.)

Cleaning -- obvious stuff that a good spy team ought not be leaving behind anyway -- bullet casings, bullets, fingerprints (don't touch things w/o gloves), foot/shoe prints, your own team's bodily fluids (No! Don't lick the crime scene!), etc. The more subtle stuff -- the DNA that sloughs off normally, the carpet fiber you tracked in -- couple of choices -- either try to destroy the DNA with bleach or other chemicals, or drown both out with a sea of irrelevant info. (Now I'm picturing a mister of fluids collected say from a public bathroom.)

The problem of the now/near future is the data exhaust -- checking cell towers for what phones were in the area, small video cameras/recorders, asking Siri what she heard.
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