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Originally Posted by Hellboy
The penalty you.can inflict on attributes with the first grapple could impede the defenses imposed against the second grapple.
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Good point, if I can't maneuver into an attack from behind/other no-defense attack, the target would get -1 to dodge from each of DWA and the existing grapple.
Doing the grab first does not work well in this case, mostly because the character does not have the skill levels to either target the neck or do deceptive attacks without bringing the effective skill below 16.(the grapple will need a 2 second evaluate just to get up to an effective skill of 16, even with AOA-Determined to counter the untrained DWA penalty)