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Old 11-30-2022, 03:02 AM   #39
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Default Re: Skill Lists And Limits For Teenage Characters

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Originally Posted by malloyd View Post
However. The thing is that by no means does cooperating on defense and interstellar diplomacy require a single government, harmonizing laws or even opening borders. You'll note that neither Australia nor the US have fully harmonized their state laws yet. Louisiana doesn't even use the same basic framework as the rest of the US. On the other hand the European "Union" is even further from having done so, or even fully coordinating its foreign policies, and yet has the open borders and most of the common economy. For that matter this is a substantial part of the Communist [ideal] and it largely didn't happen even between fairly culturally close Communist governed neighbors over half a century of facing off against a West that clearly hated them.

This is something we know comes in a lot of shades, and thinking you are going to get a world government that doesn't stop short of full union without at least centuries at an intermediate stage is a utopian fantasy no matter what you think the impetus is.
State laws don't need to harmonize, that's actually the point of having states. But I can't imagine any country putting themselves on a path that they know leads to open borders with the US without protections against the gun violence that the US sees.

And I think you under estimate how far along that path we already are. See how the Western world has responded to the Ukraine Invasion. We've basically been on a path like that since WW2 as part of the whole stopping WW3 thing.

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Originally Posted by Prince Charon View Post
Pretty much. The model that seems far more likely is that the world government would start out as a NATO-like organization, and very gradually become more united, with each step (over a period of decades or longer) just seeming like a logical follow-up to the ones before, and a necessary move due to the changing situation, rather than being a sudden shift that would cause riots and work-stopages even among people who would otherwise be in favor of a lot of the changes.

So, basically this.
So above for how much of this already exist IRL. Beyond that I'm setting this in 2070, with 20 years of pushing. So, while things are technically at the large alliance stage, what does exist is starting to look an awful lot like one. The alliance is a free trade/movement area, it's got it's own army, etc.
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