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Originally Posted by Sindri
People have lots of approaches for most things. The presence of multiple approaches means nothing for the efficacy of those approaches. If you want to do something really impressive you simply can't reliably achieve that by hitting people with charisma, attractiveness and reputation and hoping it works out.
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Why not? Lots of celebrities seem to be achieving what they have through Appearance and Voice alone, and they don't even necessarily have maximum levels of either (and Charisma is usually irrelevant without a two-way two-channel communication). Sure, some rely on high Performance instead.
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Originally Posted by Sindri
Gods of beauty don't have Transcendent Appearance. Perfectly beautiful beings have Transcendent Appearance. Gods of beauty will generally have at least Transcendent Appearance (possibly with "super-androgynous" for +8/+8 and/or universal), Reputation, Status, Charisma, Voice and very high levels of Sex Appeal. Often Awe and maybe even stuff like a limited form of Mind Control.
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Now, that would make them gods of singing, power, charm and other stuff. I'm specifically talking about those that are merely so beautiful that they
don't need Influence, nor other RMs or nor Mind Control. IIRC the more known example would be the nymphs (though calling them gods is an overstatement).
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Originally Posted by Sindri
Likewise if you meet someone with human maximum Charisma but without any other notable features (even the ones that human maximum Charisma makes substantially easier to acquire) who doesn't actively try to impress you and who doesn't behave in such a manner as to gain specific bonuses against you, you're just not going to be guaranteed to be that impressed.
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Is this another one of those 'well I am borderline-immune to even very strong social effects, and so can you!'?
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I'd be interested in hearing what you've done with it.
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Not enough testing. But mostly it means one never has to choose between using and not using an Influence Skill, assuming good skill levels, which reduces variability.