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Old 07-09-2018, 10:53 AM   #57
Alonsua
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Default Re: Attribute levels and their meanings.

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Originally Posted by AlexanderHowl View Post
You are incorrect about the world records. Zydrunas Savickas deadlifted 1155 pounds in 2014 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%BD...rsonal_records). Eddie Hall deadlifted over 1100 pounds in 2016 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Hall).

By the way, Arthur Saxon set his record with the Two Hands Anyhow, which is combined lift where the competitor lifts two different weights with two different hands (meaning that it is two different one-handed lifts occurring simultaneously and not a single two-handed lift by GURPS rules). If you look at the famous picture of the event (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_Hands_Anyhow), he one-handed lifted a 336 pound barbell above his head, which would require a minimum BL of 94 pounds using the 75% rule (meaning that he had an effective Lifting ST 22 by GURPS rules). He also had the world record for the bent press (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bent_press), where he one-handed lifted a 371 lb weight over his head, which would require a minimum BL of 103 lbs using the 75% rule (meaning that he had an effective Lifting ST 23 by GURPS rules).
My references are for raw deadlift, without straps. Straps and suits should give equipment bonuses of up to +4 by TL 8. However you are right in that the one handed lifts can be problematic, we should test arm ST.

You start getting appropriate numbers by arm ST 5 rolling at 25.93% success.

Found the problem. For some reason one handed lifts works at BL ×2 while two handed lifts work at BL ×8. I have several friends who do weightlifting and this does not make any sense, so do one handed lifts at BL ×4 and everything will run just fine. If you disagree with maximum one handed lifts working at ×4 for free, make it a perk or an advantage to represent training. If you disagree with the general idea check on the world records if the differences between one and two handed lifts are so large (they are not). This way you do not need arm ST at all.

Last edited by Alonsua; 07-09-2018 at 11:14 AM.
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