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Old 06-26-2022, 12:51 PM   #10
KarlKost
 
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Default Re: Deindustrialized World3 22nd Century

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Originally Posted by johndallman View Post
Sadly, he's right. Making artificial fertilisers starts by making ammonia with the Haber process. That needs nitrogen, from the atmosphere, plus hydrogen. That hydrogen all comes from natural gas because that's by far the cheapest way of getting it in bulk.

You can get it by electrolysis of water but you need a lot, and the world lacks the spare electric generating capacity.
Yes. All the alternatives are harder to make and to come by. So, it would be even harder for a world without oil.

We should indeed to head on and fast into nuclear. Anyone discussing "clean energies" that doesnt bring nuclear to the table is not being serious. If we had enough nuclear power plants to supply all the demand, we could drop oil altogheter in not too much time - there would still be a need for mass EVs to replace all vehicles we currently have, and the need to speed up production of bio-plastic that is far more energy consuming. And the EV batteries require several hard to come by components, including several rare earths. It's a massive transition, but doable - but dumb politicians must first stopping crusading against nuclear in exchange of russian and saudi bribes
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