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Old 09-06-2013, 11:25 AM   #3
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Default Re: Wondering Monster/Negotiating Help

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Originally Posted by bokenboy View Post
2) With Wondering Monster, do you receive the benefits from beating the additional monster(s) (i.e. additional sets of levels/treasure), or only the benefits from the original monster?
The rules specifically say that if you kill a Monster, you get its Level and Treasure rewards. So, if you kill 2, 3, or even more Monsters, that simple rule extends: Did you kill the first Monster? Yes, so you get all the rewards for that Monster. Did you kill the second Monster? Yes, so you get all the rewards for that Monster. And, so on for each Monster you killed. In fact, for you to not get the rewards for defeating multiple Monsters in combat, the rules would actually have to say that, not the other way around.

Obviously, if you defeat a Monster without killing it, then you'll only get the rewards for that Monster that the way you defeated it allows (Magic Lamp, Pollymorph Potion, and the Wizard's charm spell only give Treasure), but the same process I described above applies for defeats that aren't deadly.

And to be absolutely clear about one of your other questions (get ready for crazy amounts of emphasis): A helper cannot leave combat of his own free will once he's agreed to join combat. Getting to leave combat always requires a rule on a card. Some cards let you leave, some force you to leave and force another player to fight instead, some Monsters must be fought alone, and thus let the helper leave without penalty, and if an ability that forced a player to help can not be used for the winning Level, then the helper must leave (again without penalty) once the winning Level will be rewarded to the player who used that ability. So, renegotiation for the player's basic help is not necessary, nor should the helper think he should be allowed to renegotiate for his basic help. If he could scuttle the combat, or save it, maybe he's got something he can bargain with, but he's not leaving that combat just because he wants to do so.
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