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Old 02-07-2017, 08:55 PM   #17
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Default Re: Custody of federal prisoners convicted at court martial or unfit for trial

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The Senior Agent of the pair is most likely to be an extremely experienced agent. Most likely hand picked for the escort duty, so will probably be read in on at the very least how important this is.
Indeed.

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The Sec of Defense and the Sec of the Army will still try to retain as much "face" as they can in the situation. So will want to "control" the events around the detainee as much as possible.
It's entirely possible that what the esteemed secretaries are told about this, if anything, will be highly edited by whatever shadowy figures within the military bureaucracy who have a vested interest in avoiding any disclosures from the ancient past of Project Jade Serenity.

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And the bafflegab flag is down on the play -- I've been an IG, too. But your average Joe probably won't twig to it. Carry on.
It's highly unlikely that Director Vani Gujarat or Cam Townsend have ever performed the duties of regular personnel from the Office of the Inspector General. Most likely, their shiny new ID was issued simply to give Onyx Rain official status without implicating whatever real office they come from. Then again, a former OIG of the DHS is among those whom my character strongly suspects of being behind whatever conspiracy is controlling the faction of our handlers at Onyx Rain, so maybe they do really work for the current OIG.

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Almost certainly. The DHS agents themselves can't claim attorney-client privilege, and the only people at Fort Leavenworth likely to be in a position to evaluate their security clearances will also have a need to know that they aren't doing anything illegal. Remember: the DB is responsible for anything that happens to the prisoner. They take that responsibility very seriously.
What needs to happen for that responsibility to end?

Can Inmate Taylor legally be transfered somewhere else, where his care will not be the responsibility of the Fort Leavenworth people?

Can he be remanded into the custody of Military Intelligence? Some other DOD agency?

Or can be be declared insane, medically discharged from the Army and subsequently moved to the Manhanock Asylum for the Criminally Insane?

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What happens is a huge mud-wrestling match, only it won't be CID in charge on the military side -- this is Military Intelligence territory.

First, DHS has to provide a [security] clearance letter to someone on the military side with the clearance to receive and evaluate it, and the chain-of-command authority to provide the access they need. That's a major command level call, if not DOD. If the DB personnel aren't cleared for the contents of the interview -- and they almost certainly are not -- expect the MACOM (probably NORTHCOM, in Colorado Springs) to send an MI officer with the appropriate clearances (read on to the compartment just for the purpose, if necessary) as escort. That officer will be present during the interviews, to ensure that the prisoner's rights are respected and that nothing the DHS agents are not cleared to hear gets discussed.
If that will do, that's fine. Onyx Rain is a joint task force, for all the distrust that the DHS personnel in it feel for the DOD people, and includes at least one senior MI officer with a Special Forces background.

There is also a DIA officer and a small team of 'Army of Northern Virginia' ISA/Grey Fox/United States Army Studies and Analysis Activity HUMINT/SIGINT operators.

All of these already know more than our PCs ever know and are cleared to know anything Inmate Taylor might discuss with patient Sherilyn Bell in the course of asking for her cooperation with Operation Onyx Rain.

Legally, I assume it would be better to have the US Army MI officer accompany Taylor and the two DHS Special Agents with him than to have the DIA officer do so?

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Or they skip protocol and try to flim-flam their way through. If they get busted, though, the whole affair will be aired out for the wide (appropriately classified) world to see.
At some point, this will need to happen. After all, the people behind Onyx Rain do not plan to leave anyone who was part of Project Jade Serenity in the hands of anyone not fully aware of all the implications. At best, they plan to monitor former test subjects for the rest of their lives, which will probably involve formal or informal positions as Onyx Rain employees or assets.

At worst, they have a cover story ready for the terrorist attack that kills any of us who can't be quietly disappeared.
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