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Old 07-01-2011, 11:40 AM   #28
Matthias Wasser
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Boston
Default Re: Seraphim and Profanity

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Originally Posted by Rocket Man View Post
So is language itself, yet Seraphim become dissonant for misuse of those symbols in a more general sense as well. Why should names be different?
I'm not saying that names should be treated differently at all. You can clearly lie about names: if you say "my name is Isabel" or "I'm Isabel" or "people call me Isabel" or "Isabel; enchanted to meet you" and (unusual contexts aside) nobody actually calls you that, that's a Lie. People don't in fact use those phonemes to designate you so it's not your name, just as, if you don't punch people in boxing rings surrounded by spectators for your daily bread, you're not a professional boxer.

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In fact, in the traditions that In Nomine is based on, names are more significant than the average word and carry some power: "Whatsoever the man called it, that was its name."

I really don't see why the canonical example "makes no sense," as you put it. In each case, it's a clear example of marrying expression with intent.
I don't see how both "my name is Isabel" and "I'm called Isabel" could marry expression to intent without their both being truth or both being lies, given that when normal, honest native English speakers use them they have the same intent.
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