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Originally Posted by Mark Skarr
If they spend dedicated effort, that really doesn't rely on stats, that's much more narrative. If they're going to invest time and effort, that's a role-playing exercise not just a contested roll.
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Stats are important for much more than just contested rolls. It tells you how high the capabilities of the foe is compared to the PCs, and thus whether invested time and effort could be enough to give the PCs a chance. Then it also gives you the means to resolve the conflict once the PCs have made their preparations.
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That's an awful justification. If something has listed statistics then the party can just get lucky and take something out, even by accident. Without listed stats, that becomes an impossibility.
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No, they can't if the stats are designed to make it impossible for them to take it out even with great luck. For example, no character limited to mundane attacks could kill an Incoporeal spirit. If the concept of the enemy is such that they can't be killed, then just assign the stats accordingly.