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I think the last time I looked at the stats on an ogre counter (besides relearning the SHVY stats) was during the Carter administration.... Except for INF of course.

There is a logical progression:
1) counters
2) image only counters
3) vertical "flats" done in paper ("JuniorGeneral.org"). These are just double-sided image only counters on their edge.
4) Minis