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Old 08-08-2016, 01:44 PM   #34
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Default Re: Question about Infinity, Centrum, the Cabal...

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Originally Posted by David Johnston2 View Post
Centrum did not come into existence from a lower class revolt and does not subvert new acquisitions by inciting such revolutions. Instead it takes over and remakes from the top down, the opposite of what Marxist theory extols. They are acutely aware that creating a new regime through successful rebellion only increases the likelihood of future rebellions.
It still came in by revolt. Just because it's a different group planning the revolt and for different reasons, doesn't mean it's not a revolt. They are both revolutionary ideologies. (For that matter, Guy Fawkes had a revolutionary ideology too, but his was a very monarchist ideology; he simply disagreed on who the monarch should be). In any case, the most successful communist country , the USSR, came about at least as much from an intelligentisia-led uprising (the so-called vanguard) rather than directly from a peasants' revolt, which again demonstrates some inaccuracy in your claim. There were also peasant-led anarchists present in that revolution, but they were yet another force, not always on the same side as the communists.

And in-universe at least, it's not actually proven that one revolt inevitably raises the odds of a later revolt. It is certainly plausible that at least in some timelines, it has no effect, or even has a dampening effect on potential future revolutions. It is after all, firmly established that the laws of physics, magic, and social dynamics can and do vary across timelines.

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