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martinl · 04-16-2019, 09:56 AM

In a different forum folks were discussing how DF clerics seem a bit lacking to many, mainly because they are more 1/2 combatants (at best) than the 3/4 combatants folks expect them to be.

I think the easiest way to make a competently combative "cleric" is to give a holy warrior access to the regular cleric template's advantages/skills, similarly to the "thiefbucker" approach to making thieves more fighty (by giving a swashbuckler access to the thief template). If you have the fight GURPS DF supplements there are even 50 pt lenses to make it easy to cover the essentials.

The main advantage to this approach is it makes folks who like the support classes but still want to be hardcore combatants mostly happy. (The points they spend on support stuff does make them weaker in combat, but not nearly as weak as the support template.)

The main disadvantage is they are not really up to the standard level of ... support ... the support class is expected to handle. This is ok if the GM is willing to scale these challenges back a little, but if not you are just a weaker version of the combatant class that is also capable of failing to meet support requirements.

What do you folks think?

04-16-2019, 09:56 AM	#1
martinl Join Date: Jan 2006	Holier Warriors And Thiefbucklers In a different forum folks were discussing how DF clerics seem a bit lacking to many, mainly because they are more 1/2 combatants (at best) than the 3/4 combatants folks expect them to be. I think the easiest way to make a competently combative "cleric" is to give a holy warrior access to the regular cleric template's advantages/skills, similarly to the "thiefbucker" approach to making thieves more fighty (by giving a swashbuckler access to the thief template). If you have the fight GURPS DF supplements there are even 50 pt lenses to make it easy to cover the essentials. The main advantage to this approach is it makes folks who like the support classes but still want to be hardcore combatants mostly happy. (The points they spend on support stuff does make them weaker in combat, but not nearly as weak as the support template.) The main disadvantage is they are not really up to the standard level of ... support ... the support class is expected to handle. This is ok if the GM is willing to scale these challenges back a little, but if not you are just a weaker version of the combatant class that is also capable of failing to meet support requirements. What do you folks think?