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Old 06-02-2008, 11:58 AM   #35
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Default Re: First thoughts on D&D 4th edition

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Originally Posted by Anthony
Having read at some of his novels, I wouldn't bet on it. In any case, my point (possibly obscured) wasn't that you can't roleplay in D&D, it's that the rules have always been mostly about combat. I see little evidence for 4e being much worse in this regards than earlier editions -- it's almost certainly better than 1e or 2e, and I'm not sure it's any worse than 3e.

Hm. Refresh my memory on the non-combat abilities of any first edition class that wasn't a spellcaster or a thief.
Without having any 1.0 books nearby (I haven't owned any since 1983 -apparently, D&D was E-V-I-L to my folks), here's a few I can think of:

Bend bars/lift gates of the Fighter
Lay on Hands of the Paladin
Track of the Ranger
Pick a funky feat (like being able to fall without injury) of a Monk
Nature related abilities of the Druid

--Mike L.
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