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Whitelaughter · 09-12-2018, 07:32 AM

The first thing to note is that the attunement is word for word identical with Shedite of Theft, so anything you decide should apply equally to both attunements.

From a practical perspective, anyone attacking the character is going to ignore body hits, and focus on something that can do some serious damage - Mind hits. It's simply the go to way to take out possessors: Ethereal Entropy or Numinous Corpus Tongue are simply more effective.

A spritzer loaded with Addictive drugs is another obvious way to hurt with the celestial.

The assumption that it is a physical gas is a major one - if so, why can a character with superhuman levels of Strength not blow a piece of paper? If you are making this decision, you should reward players for creative uses of what can be done with a gust of wind (certainly the Archangel of Wind should!)

Damaging air is a lot harder than it sounds. Burning will turn O2 into C20, sure...but the celestial can possess either, so isn't likely to care. Cold? Liquid nitrogen has a boiling point of −196 °C (77 K), oxygen's is −183 °C (90 K), argon is -185.8 °C, so freezing air is a nightmare.
If the character was trapped in a sealed room, and you went with a low tech vaccuum - frex pump in boiling water, seal, wait for it to cool - you could force the character's 'vessel' to expand through the room, but given Kyrios can operate with Forces on different planes of existence, this is unlikely to worry them - possibly it would upset a Shedite. Or make it nostalgic for before it Fell, which might be even more productive!

A Song of Thunder though is straightforward - the stunning effect affects everyone within range, and is resisted by Will. This would definitely work.

Correct on your 2nd and 3rd points. However note that there's nothing to stop a Kyrio from using a possessed body elsewhere to perform the required rituals for a Song.

Happy GMing!

09-12-2018, 07:32 AM	#2
Whitelaughter Join Date: Jun 2011	Re: Some hesitations about Kyriotates of Janus. The first thing to note is that the attunement is word for word identical with Shedite of Theft, so anything you decide should apply equally to both attunements. From a practical perspective, anyone attacking the character is going to ignore body hits, and focus on something that can do some serious damage - Mind hits. It's simply the go to way to take out possessors: Ethereal Entropy or Numinous Corpus Tongue are simply more effective. A spritzer loaded with Addictive drugs is another obvious way to hurt with the celestial. The assumption that it is a physical gas is a major one - if so, why can a character with superhuman levels of Strength not blow a piece of paper? If you are making this decision, you should reward players for creative uses of what can be done with a gust of wind (certainly the Archangel of Wind should!) Damaging air is a lot harder than it sounds. Burning will turn O2 into C20, sure...but the celestial can possess either, so isn't likely to care. Cold? Liquid nitrogen has a boiling point of −196 °C (77 K), oxygen's is −183 °C (90 K), argon is -185.8 °C, so freezing air is a nightmare. If the character was trapped in a sealed room, and you went with a low tech vaccuum - frex pump in boiling water, seal, wait for it to cool - you could force the character's 'vessel' to expand through the room, but given Kyrios can operate with Forces on different planes of existence, this is unlikely to worry them - possibly it would upset a Shedite. Or make it nostalgic for before it Fell, which might be even more productive! A Song of Thunder though is straightforward - the stunning effect affects everyone within range, and is resisted by Will. This would definitely work. Correct on your 2nd and 3rd points. However note that there's nothing to stop a Kyrio from using a possessed body elsewhere to perform the required rituals for a Song. Happy GMing!