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Originally Posted by vicky_molokh
A bit of context:
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Ah, so I see.
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Originally Posted by DouglasCole
The practical impact of this penalty is often "can't concentrate" though, so I can see why he wants an alternate.
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In that case, Will-3 may arguably work as well as anything else, although I'd be inclined to go with Will-4 for consistency (as pretty much everything else takes a -4 while grappled). I'd probably also apply the grappling -4 for any rolls needed for the Concentrate maneuver itself (casting spells, scoping the battlefield, etc).
For those who still want to use TG, simply applying the Active Control penalty to the Will roll would mimic the above. If one actually likes the way TG handles it now, but feels a starting point of -10 is rather harsh, consider halving the current penalty. -5 is still pretty close to "impossible" for a typical person, after all.