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Anders 02-26-2016 07:16 AM

Affliction and Size Modifier
 
I'm thinking of making the HT roll vs. Afflictions with certain modifications (like Blood Agent) get a bonus equal to Size Modifier, making it easier to Afflict small creatures and more difficult to Afflict large creatures. This would give some bonuses to large Size Modifier, which is otherwise not a very good deal. What do you think?

Peter Knutsen 02-26-2016 07:35 AM

Re: Affliction and Size Modifier
 
I'm not sure why it that principle shouldn't be extended to a much larger subset of Afflictions.

Lia Valenth 02-26-2016 07:53 AM

Re: Affliction and Size Modifier
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Anders (Post 1982987)
I'm thinking of making the HT roll vs. Afflictions with certain modifications (like Blood Agent) get a bonus equal to Size Modifier, making it easier to Afflict small creatures and more difficult to Afflict large creatures. This would give some bonuses to large Size Modifier, which is otherwise not a very good deal. What do you think?

Hard to say. Which modifications exactly get this is important. However, in my opinion the cost of affliction at base is too high. The first level might be right, but each -1 costs that same price again. So anything that makes leveled Afflictions worse, I am normally against.

Anders 02-26-2016 08:57 AM

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Well, it also makes Afflictions better against small targets, like Halflings.

Peter, I think it would be inappropriate for things like Maledictions but for my purpose (a stunning sound beam) it fits perfectly.

Leynok 02-26-2016 09:01 AM

Re: Affliction and Size Modifier
 
I honestly like the idea of modifying the HT roll from Afflictions by your SM.

Clockwork_Virus 02-26-2016 10:14 AM

Re: Affliction and Size Modifier
 
For effects that are dosage-dependent (like most Blood Agents are), I think it's very appropriate.

Though I'm wondering if this can be more finely-tuned by making the bonus more directly linked to mass, e.g. by basing it on HP rather than SM.

Anders 02-26-2016 10:23 AM

Re: Affliction and Size Modifier
 
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Originally Posted by Clockwork_Virus (Post 1983040)
For effects that are dosage-dependent (like most Blood Agents are), I think it's very appropriate.

Though I'm wondering if this can be more finely-tuned by making the bonus more directly linked to mass, e.g. by basing it on HP rather than SM.

Probably, but that would be complex. The SM is a fine proxy.

Varyon 02-26-2016 03:39 PM

Re: Affliction and Size Modifier
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Clockwork_Virus (Post 1983040)
For effects that are dosage-dependent (like most Blood Agents are), I think it's very appropriate.

Though I'm wondering if this can be more finely-tuned by making the bonus more directly linked to mass, e.g. by basing it on HP rather than SM.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anders (Post 1983043)
Probably, but that would be complex. The SM is a fine proxy.

Personally, I like the idea of rebuilding most Afflictions as Innate Attacks with No Wounding (+No Knockback, etc) and Symptoms - if the attack makes it through DR, the target has to make an HT roll, penalized based on how much damage made it through, or suffer the Symptom effects.

roguebfl 02-26-2016 04:14 PM

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Remember powers alread has something like this.

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Originally Posted by Powers p.40
Afflictions and Inanimate Targets
[...]the GM should let unliving, homogenous, and diffuse targets add their SM to their resistance roll [...]. If modified HT comes to 21+ after applying SM and the Affiction's HT modifier, resistance is automatic nothing happens


Flyndaran 02-26-2016 04:30 PM

Re: Affliction and Size Modifier
 
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Originally Posted by roguebfl (Post 1983163)
Remember powers alread has something like this.

I thought that was the base assumption. Afflictions are all or nothing type deals rather than nickel and diming straight damaging attacks. I assumed that more or less "all" would hinder or help the resistance roll.
But SM for characters is kind of all over the place to even whether it should be an advantage, disadvantage, or feature. But as long as the GM is very careful to keep small sizes from becoming noticeable disadvantages, I would prefer the aforementioned rule.


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