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Maz 09-20-2018 02:42 AM

Hockeystaff as a weapon
 
1) What stats would a hockeystaff used as a weapon have?


2) Then what if you design it as a weapon first, and secondly to look like a hockeystaff?


2b) What if the edge is sharpened? What if it's sharpened on the inside (like a hook sword) instead?


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1) I am guessing this would just be a short staff (like a Jo from Low Tech), but cheap quality for being light-weight and with a skill penalty for being improvised (and not as well balanced).


2) This could just be a staff, but if the head is heavy enough to act like a weapon, I don't think it would be as balanced as a staff, and I think it ought to get +2 to swing attacks (still crushing).
So maybe a polearm with Sw+2 cr. Reach: 1,2*. But NOT unbalanced parry.


2b) This is actually the part I am most interested in for a slightly cinematic character in a near-future setting. But this is also where I am most unsure about the stats.
I am guessing it's stat should match nr. 2) pretty well, but just with cut dam instead of crushing?

evileeyore 09-20-2018 03:06 AM

Re: Hockeystaff as a weapon
 
Since hockey stick 'blades' are either wood or a composite plastic, you're pretty much stuck doing crushing damage. For stats I'd say: Dam sw-1 cr; Reach 1,2; Parry 0; WT 2; and ST 5.

If you made the blade out of metal, then sure, cut away...

For stats I'd go with Dueling Glaive if it's designed to be a weapon and is just disguised as a hockey stick.

malloyd 09-20-2018 04:54 AM

Re: Hockeystaff as a weapon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Maz (Post 2210130)
2) Then what if you design it as a weapon first, and secondly to look like a hockeystaff?
2b) What if the edge is sharpened? What if it's sharpened on the inside (like a hook sword) instead?

I'd be inclined to say if it's actually made of something that will take an edge and sharpened to the point is has one, it probably *cannot* be successfully disguised as a hockey stick, even from a distance.

Quote:

I am guessing this would just be a short staff (like a Jo from Low Tech), but cheap quality for being light-weight and with a skill penalty for being improvised (and not as well balanced).
Are these symmetrically balanced enough for that? My first guess for something with one end weighted over the other would be that it's a club (using Two Handed Axe/Mace skill), not Staff.

Taneli 09-20-2018 05:46 AM

Re: Hockeystaff as a weapon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by malloyd (Post 2210141)
I'd be inclined to say if it's actually made of something that will take an edge and sharpened to the point is has one, it probably *cannot* be successfully disguised as a hockey stick, even from a distance.



Are these symmetrically balanced enough for that? My first guess for something with one end weighted over the other would be that it's a club (using Two Handed Axe/Mace skill), not Staff.

With the experience from having used these as a kid, I'd say that a proper hockey stick is balanced enough to use with Staff -skill, although they're very light and not as tall as proper quarterstaffs, so a short staff sounds like a good approximation.

The Colonel 09-20-2018 08:49 AM

Re: Hockeystaff as a weapon
 
...now I'm confused. What sort of hockey stick has a blade on it?

Anaraxes 09-20-2018 09:11 AM

Re: Hockeystaff as a weapon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Colonel (Post 2210172)
What sort of hockey stick has a blade on it?

I thought he meant sharpening the wooden blade. If you rebuild it to have a metal blade, it's a polearm (probably that dueling glaive). If you sharpen the wooden blade, then it's a dueling glade made out of wood, as a bokken is to a katana. Though a quick glance through MA and LTC didn't show me rules for alternative weapon materials.

Ashtagon 09-20-2018 09:28 AM

Re: Hockeystaff as a weapon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Colonel (Post 2210172)
...now I'm confused. What sort of hockey stick has a blade on it?

The "business end" of a hockey stick is sometimes called the blade, even though it is conventionally not sharpened.

https://www.google.com/search?q=hock...BxUojTvAguvWM:

Celjabba 09-20-2018 11:29 AM

Re: Hockeystaff as a weapon
 
And here Is the martial style :

http://forums.sjgames.com/showpost.p...3&postcount=10

evileeyore 09-20-2018 03:33 PM

Re: Hockeystaff as a weapon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Celjabba (Post 2210207)

It looks like Kromm is making the stick a straight out Hooked Dueling Glaive that does crushing damage.

I wonder why? Hockey sticks are really super light weight.

The Colonel 09-21-2018 05:37 AM

Re: Hockeystaff as a weapon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ashtagon (Post 2210182)
The "business end" of a hockey stick is sometimes called the blade, even though it is conventionally not sharpened.

https://www.google.com/search?q=hock...BxUojTvAguvWM:

Okay ... completely different sort of stick. I was thinking of:

https://www.google.com/search?q=hock...=1537526150420


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