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Phex 02-07-2019 08:50 AM

Parrying with a Flail
 
A Morningstar weapon has Parry U0 and Note [6] as per Basic p. 272.

So attempts to parry it are at -4/-2.

However, parrying with the Morningstar or other flail weapons is possible without any penalty (when the unbalancedness does not forbid it due to a previous attack).

Is this intended?

It appears to me that parrying a sword with this should be as least as difficult as parrying with a knife, which is at -1.

House-ruling this is trivial, I was just wondering what the intention behind U0 was.

Anaraxes 02-07-2019 09:01 AM

Re: Parrying with a Flail
 
The handle on most flails is around 20-25 inches long or more, as long as a shortsword or baton, and considerably longer than most knives.

Kromm 02-07-2019 10:51 AM

Re: Parrying with a Flail
 
Yes, you parry with the haft, which is a solid chunk of metal-bound or -studded wood no different from the haft of an axe or mace. Kusaris have Parry -2U instead of 0U because they lack this haft.

Phex 02-09-2019 12:40 AM

Re: Parrying with a Flail
 
Thank you for the quick replies and the clarification!

Gollum 02-09-2019 01:27 AM

Re: Parrying with a Flail
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kromm (Post 2241468)
Yes, you parry with the haft, which is a solid chunk of metal-bound or -studded wood no different from the haft of an axe or mace. Kusaris have Parry -2U instead of 0U because they lack this haft.

Even while parrying with the haft, the orher parts should be annoying because they have a weight and, contrary to a mace or axe, move around when you move the weapon.

Anthony 02-09-2019 02:07 AM

Re: Parrying with a Flail
 
You have a worse parry at the same number of points in the skill because it's a Hard skill instead of average. Not sure if it needs more penalty than that.

Gollum 02-09-2019 02:41 AM

Re: Parrying with a Flail
 
Yes, you're right. The difference of difficulty is like a -1 which corresponds to the heavyness and awkwardness of the weapon.

Kromm 02-11-2019 07:12 AM

Re: Parrying with a Flail
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gollum (Post 2241870)

Yes, you're right. The difference of difficulty is like a -1 which corresponds to the heavyness and awkwardness of the weapon.

The wobbly weight distribution is why Flail, Kusari, and Two-Handed Flail are Hard and not Average. The lack of a haft is why Kusari also has Parry -2U.


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