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phiwum 11-08-2020 04:53 PM

Physicker and poison
 
Does the physicker skill reduce damage from poisons? Not clear to me if these are "wounds".

Thanks.

Terquem 11-08-2020 05:45 PM

Re: Physicker and poison
 
As the GM, I would rule yes - and I would say this because the words "wounds" and "damage" are not specifically defined in the list of terms, therefore the GM should be able to determine what wounds and damage are for their game. Specifically sighting that the concept of "damage" is itself nebulous and a game element that should, in my opinion, be flexible.

MikMod 11-08-2020 06:58 PM

Re: Physicker and poison
 
Physiker is good, but I'd like to see naturalist talents or even alchemy depending on the kind of poison.

JimmyPlenty 11-09-2020 02:47 AM

Re: Physicker and poison
 
I certainly agree with naturalist and alchemy involved.

Proposal-ish

Treating with physicker or naturist roll 4/IQ or with alchemy at 3/IQ. Success stops lingering effects and is only way to recover ST from poison other than rest or magical healing.

hcobb 11-09-2020 07:52 AM

Re: Physicker and poison
 
Note that if you get stung a dozen times in one combat all your Master Physickers can heal is three points total, so don't leave home without a goblin witch if you want to live.

David Bofinger 11-09-2020 08:59 AM

Re: Physicker and poison
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phiwum (Post 2352815)
Does the physicker skill reduce damage from poisons? Not clear to me if these are "wounds".

I like to allow it. I figure if a human body's been mistreated it's almost always better off if it gets competent first aid than if it doesn't, regardless of the exact nature of the mistreatment.

I'd probably allow a Chemist to act as a Physicker for this purpose, or a Physicker+Chemist to act as a Master Physicker. I'd allow a Naturalist to forage for local flora to partially substitute for a physicker's kit but I wouldn't give a bonus above having a physicker's kit.

Shadekeep 11-09-2020 11:41 AM

Re: Physicker and poison
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phiwum (Post 2352815)
Does the physicker skill reduce damage from poisons? Not clear to me if these are "wounds".

I'd allow it, but there's a pretty big scope for poisons. See the Hexagram #5 article on the subject, it adds a more tiered system of treatments than just Universal Antidote. I would suspect that physickers could probably create some of the Antitoxins, and naturalists could make or harvest a good number of the Antivenoms. But regardless I'd say that part of a physicker's remit is dealing with toxins and thus they should be able to alleviate their effects at least in part.

phiwum 11-09-2020 03:32 PM

Re: Physicker and poison
 
I find it somewhat interesting that a lot of folks have suggested Naturalist talent could play a role in either producing antivenin or healing poison damage.

I guess I'd see the latter somewhat plausible when it comes to snake bites, but not for, say, the effects of a simple poison bomb (even though it comes from snake venom). Sucking poison out of a wound is something a naturalist can do. That's a pretty good idea.

Not sure how antivenin works, but if it takes a chemist to make a poison, I'd lean to having a chemist making antivenin.

Anyway, lots of good and interesting replies. For now, I'll accept that Physicker can heal two points of poison damage (which is how I played it when it came up anyway). I'll think about how skills like naturalist or chemist (or alchemist) might help too.

Shadekeep 11-12-2020 08:11 AM

Re: Physicker and poison
 
I was thinking that Naturalists might not just have insight into harvesting antivenoms, but also know some natural palliatives for certain kinds of poisons. Like antivenoms these would be highly specific to the poison's source, but in game terms could be generalised as a difficult roll (4/IQ or even 5/IQ) for the Naturalist.

As for Physickers, I think they should be able to slow or halt multi-turn poisons, if such things occur in your campaign settings. The TFT system is more geared towards immediate combat effects, but one can imagine a slow-acting poison that does a small amount of damage every turn for a number of turns. Physickers should be able to counter this effect to some degree.

tcr25 11-12-2020 11:21 AM

Re: Physicker and poison
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadekeep (Post 2352907)
I'd allow it, but there's a pretty big scope for poisons. See the Hexagram #5 article on the subject, it adds a more tiered system of treatments than just Universal Antidote. I would suspect that physickers could probably create some of the Antitoxins, and naturalists could make or harvest a good number of the Antivenoms. But regardless I'd say that part of a physicker's remit is dealing with toxins and thus they should be able to alleviate their effects at least in part.

I was just looking at this article and noticed the mention of "giant mellipheon hive insects," which, I guess, makes "Hive of the Mellipheon" canon.


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