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Shalmaneser 05-27-2020 09:41 AM

Soul Stone and Drain Mana.
 
If a mage who has used Soul Stone to tuck his soul elsewhere is unlucky enough to be standing where someone casts Drain Mana, what happens?

Does he drop over dead permanently, dead until the mana level returns, dead if the soul stone is elsewhere but okay if it's there, just mortal until he's back out of the no-mana area?

ericthered 05-27-2020 11:24 AM

Re: Soul Stone and Drain Mana.
 
As a player or GM, I'd be fine with the enchanter either drops over dead until the stone is no longer in the zone, or if the caster became mortal for the duration. Either interpretation seems to be a reasonable effect for the stone no longer being active. I'd expect the "correct" answer to depend on setting fluff about souls, and thematically dropping dead makes more sense, and is more dramatic.

I'd have a problem if anti-magic zones just killed the enchanter outright, that feels less resilient than other magic items, and soul stone is all about resilience.

hal 05-27-2020 08:44 PM

Re: Soul Stone and Drain Mana.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Shalmaneser (Post 2325866)
If a mage who has used Soul Stone to tuck his soul elsewhere is unlucky enough to be standing where someone casts Drain Mana, what happens?

Does he drop over dead permanently, dead until the mana level returns, dead if the soul stone is elsewhere but okay if it's there, just mortal until he's back out of the no-mana area?

The question you ask is a good one, but in looking at what the spell description states - you have to ask yourself the following:

Does ANY of the benefits of the Soul Stone actively require mana? If you read carefully, the lifeforce is already transitioned between the caster's body to the object. The soul stone does not need to be anywhere near the body for its benefits to function. There is no limit to how far away the soul stone can be from the body - in other words, its effects do not wane in any way.

That implies then, that all of the benefits accrued to the spell recipient, come into being the moment the soul is deposited into a separate object.

The question to ask now is "are the effects of this transaction dependent upon mana such that if the BODY is in a no mana zone, will the body suddenly begin to age, or can be killed, or what?

Plane 05-27-2020 09:27 PM

Re: Soul Stone and Drain Mana.
 
a related question might be how mana affects the Soul Jar (M154) Enchantment too...

presumably the shift-to-jar won't happen in No Mana, but yeah as mentioned the soul is ALREADY in the stone, as opposed to being tied to but not in the jar until the death happens.


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