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Finalsora811 05-22-2012 02:57 PM

Visualization and Luck
 
Out of combat, is Visualization useful if you have regular Luck? If so, how? Cause I figure I can change the dice rolls with Luck rather than getting a bonus due to Visualization.

Pomphis 05-22-2012 03:01 PM

Re: Visualization and Luck
 
You can use Visualization much more often.

Refplace 05-22-2012 03:04 PM

Re: Visualization and Luck
 
It depends on what you want it for.
Luck as pointed out is limited by how often you can use it. Also it really is best for re-rolling critical failures or a really bad die roll.

Visualization on the other hand can be used as often as you like though the circumstances have to be specific and that bonus on an already decent skill increases your odds of critical success.

Finalsora811 05-22-2012 03:09 PM

Re: Visualization and Luck
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pomphis (Post 1378340)
You can use Visualization much more often.

True, but my IQ is only going to be 14. So, more often than not, I won't get a HUGE bonus. Which means I'm really only going to use Visualization and Luck in conjunction. That's why I think it'd be obsolete to have Visualization.

Finalsora811 05-22-2012 03:12 PM

Re: Visualization and Luck
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Refplace (Post 1378343)
It depends on what you want it for.

I'm making a gambler character.

safisher 05-22-2012 03:15 PM

Re: Visualization and Luck
 
I tend to think of it as "The Force." Very useful in certain circumstances, but not usually combat -- though one of the newer books has a mod for using it in combat, IIRC.

Witchking 05-22-2012 03:44 PM

Re: Visualization and Luck
 
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Originally Posted by Finalsora811 (Post 1378348)
I'm making a gambler character.

Aspected Luck and you can be a Very Good Gambler of course that may lead to you being killed as a cheater...and Aspected Luck won't help you dealing with the consequences of your unnatural abilities...

Refplace 05-22-2012 03:44 PM

Re: Visualization and Luck
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Finalsora811 (Post 1378348)
I'm making a gambler character.

For that Luck is probably better.
It will be handy when things go wrong.
Most of the games you are involved in wont be set up well enough that Visualization will apply. You need a lot of predictability for that advantage to work. Depending on the game Lightning Calculator may be handy for helping you figure odds quickly or card counting.

Lamech 05-22-2012 03:56 PM

Re: Visualization and Luck
 
Visualization is fairly good if the GM lets you fully trick it out. Lots of reduced time from basic set. If you have Powers also add the reliability enhancement. Otherwise it only really works if you have spare time to use it. Which for things like inventing, crafting, making tactical plans ect. means you can pick up a +1 or +2 on average. Fairly decent for a ten point power.

Christopher R. Rice 05-22-2012 04:00 PM

Re: Visualization and Luck
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Finalsora811 (Post 1378336)
Out of combat, is Visualization useful if you have regular Luck? If so, how? Cause I figure I can change the dice rolls with Luck rather than getting a bonus due to Visualization.

Why not get both and split the difference?

Extraordinary Luck [5] + Visualization (Blessing, +100%; Reduced Time 6, +120%) [32] + Visualization (Cursing, +100%; Reduced Time 6, +120%) [6]. 43 points.

You can affect others rolls in a good or a bad way, including yours or if you really need to you can reroll a die roll and take the best. But this means the entire ability is out of commission for 30 minutes.

Personally I would use the following:

Ridiculous Luck [60] + Visualization (Blessing, +100%; Reduced Time 6, +120%; Reliable 10, +100%) [9] + Visualization (Cursing, +100%; Reduced Time 6, +120%; Reliable 10, +100%) [9]. 78 points.

Edit: both of these builds use Alternate Abilities to reduce the cost.

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